of all the dumb jh posts, misusing shakespeare has to be near the top
^meh, that's a bunch of horseshit ELC.
To a large degree, these people are animals and will never stop fighting each other.
But to feel "a bit tired (sic)" after only five years since Bush and his band of greedy nincompoops destabilized the place by creating a power vacuum that only we could fill is fucking lame. You know damn good and well what happened, we all do. Americans wanted to leave Iraq, and Obama was elected to do just that, and he did for the most part.
It's your fucking people, your philosophical brethren, who went in and caused this shitshow, so stop feeling so tired. This is the mess of big business using government to do their bidding. This is the shit your side loves. Own it
These people will never stop fighting each other. That much is true. The best way to deal with that sad fact is to aggressively push to domesticate and diversify our energy production. I'd rather invest billions of dollars upgrading our grid and sourcing than trillions of dollars and thousands of irreplaceable lives trying to keep peace in a sibling rivalry.
I will have a difficult time voting against a candidate who says "Yeah, these people are nuts. We're out of here. Good luck, Israel. Let us know if you run out of bullets. Now, everyone who doesn't have solar panels on their roof by next Monday has to pay a 'tax' of $10,000.00 a year."
This would get me to vote for President Jesus H. MacDougal or whatever jhmd stands for.
It is right on target, which is why you guys have that not so fresh feeling.
By the end of this Presidency, we may have a speedbump for a Southern Border, nuclear materials in the hands of the terrorist State that used to be post-Surge Iraq and $20T in debt. I would be hyper-defensive of that abysmal record if I was you.
It is right on target, which is why you guys have that not so fresh feeling.
By the end of this Presidency, we may have a speedbump for a Southern Border, nuclear materials in the hands of the terrorist State that used to be post-Surge Iraq and $20T in debt. I would be hyper-defensive of that abysmal record if I was you.
WnB- Yes, to a large degree these people are animals, hence why the surge was never some be-all-end-all as Ph seems to think it was in retrospect. I'm a bit tired of the same strategy employed by this administration every time something goes wrong on their watch. They are incredibly predictable. First, it is never their fault. Second, if they can, they will insert Bush into the debate and make it his fault. If not Bush, blame other Republicans. If not Bush or other Republicans, blame something outside the administration, such as Iraqis. Nearly 6 years in now, and this administration has hands that are immaculately clean.
ok, what should they have done? Increased troops in Iraq against the will of his constituency, risked the lives of more veterans who get inadequate funding, and increased the debt?
Im mad as hell at Obama, but not about Iraq or immigration.
Why doesn't Bohner call a vote on immigration? It would pass.
No, he ran partially on bringing the boys home. That means you turn over security to the Iraqis, bring most soldiers home (or send them to Afghanistan), but continue with the backing and support of the US government. We did one and not the other. A token force left behind to offer support and strikes when necessary would likely have nipped ISIS in the bud. And as a condition of the support, you make the Iraqis flip the bill in some way, shape, or form.
I'm confident that a congress would've cooperated for that had he had any desire to do so.
And these problems you outline were easy to fix in the span of 5.5 years, and this President just failed to do it?
How do you prevent 20T in debt AND keep a fighting force in Iraq to prevent ISIS or whatever else gang of morons from doing this oh wise one? Does George fucking Will have a column for you that explains it?
no one wanted either of these fucking wars once they reached the 5 year mark and were quagmires.
But ok. You are arguing nuances of war tactics. You take risks and you gauge support at home and troop morale against your objectives. This is no win. These fuckers are 500 years behind civilization. They slaughter each other over religious differences. Their zealots. On top of that, the troops know this and hate this fucking war, they don't believe in it, and neither do their families. Everyone knows this was for oil and mostly failed that objective. Bring 'em home. You gonna bust this President's balls for that? :rulz: