DirkTheDeac
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Stupid bird parody.
Stupid bird parody.
We are never going to win ANY war in Afghanistan. Ever.
We are never going to win ANY war in the Middle East. Ever.
My beef with Ryan is he let Biden off easy. There were at least three moments he could have landed a body blow.
1) The Libya thing would have been a part of most of my answers, and I would have called Cutter out by name. No way you let that walk. Talk about a gaffe-compounding a lie, compounding incompetence.
2) The "unemployment in your hometown is up 15% since when you took office" was a great one, but he should have buried him when Biden protested with "The economy is doing better" bit. All Ryan had to do was interrupt him and say, "Four years in, do you expect the 23 million Americans still out of work to believe things are good? I bet they'd disagree with you, and frankly, I trust their opinion of their plight over yours. Tell the people that have been out of work so long that their government stops counting them in the unemployment statistics that things are doing fine. They deserve better than four more years of sunshine and excuses, Mr. Vice President."
3) On Afghanistan, he should have focused on the consequences of a results-blind draw down. "We want American soldiers out of Afghanistan as soon as we can be assured that they'll never have to go back. It does us no good to ignore our commanders and arbitrarily pull our people out in 2014 if we have to send them back in 2020. We've come to far to quit the race halfway through the last lap. We want to win this war so it never has to be fought again."
My beef with Ryan is he let Biden off easy. There were at least three moments he could have landed a body blow.
1) The Libya thing would have been a part of most of my answers, and I would have called Cutter out by name. No way you let that walk. Talk about a gaffe-compounding a lie, compounding incompetence.
2) The "unemployment in your hometown is up 15% since when you took office" was a great one, but he should have buried him when Biden protested with "The economy is doing better" bit. All Ryan had to do was interrupt him and say, "Four years in, do you expect the 23 million Americans still out of work to believe things are good? I bet they'd disagree with you, and frankly, I trust their opinion of their plight over yours. Tell the people that have been out of work so long that their government stops counting them in the unemployment statistics that things are doing fine. They deserve better than four more years of sunshine and excuses, Mr. Vice President."
3) On Afghanistan, he should have focused on the consequences of a results-blind draw down. "We want American soldiers out of Afghanistan as soon as we can be assured that they'll never have to go back. It does us no good to ignore our commanders and arbitrarily pull our people out in 2014 if we have to send them back in 2020. We've come to far to quit the race halfway through the last lap. We want to win this war so it never has to be fought again."
Why don't the undecided voters agree with you then?
The last thing Biden wanted was a true debate. His strategy was to dice this up with constant interruption, funny faces, and miniature sound bites. It turned out okay because it seemed more like a draw than the blow out it could have been. Biden's tactic left Ryan looking more composed and presidential. Mission accomplished for the Romney campaign.
Which of the two debaters came across as the one most likely to compromise with the other and reach solutions to big problems? This is the question on the mind of independents and undecideds.
Was it the guy who constantly interrupted and said the other was full of malarkey? Or Was it the guy who was respectful, focused, and composed?
Biden may have played well to the base who were largely pissed about Obama's failure last week, but he was an unmitigated disaster to independents and undecideds.