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Trump Pardons Joe Arpaiao and Sends Anti-trans Memo for action

How do you pardon someone who hasn't been sentenced yet? This is a clear message to the people who are thinking of turning on him that he'll take care of them. I didn't know that someone who is pardoned can no longer invoke the 5th amendment to the events they were pardoned for.

I think there's also a good chance this was intended solely to feed his idiot base, as he barely has the ability to think beyond what's currently on his mind.
 
I really think somehow America elected probably the single worst person it could have possibly elected President. Like, a 1-in-321 million chance of electing our nation's worst person to hold the job, and it actually happened.
 
Well yeah. Everybody knows he's going to pardon his associates.
 
Seems like the GOP will pretty much stand by watching Trump set fire to the office of the presidency, but if he starts pardoning folks for Russia, I think that's all she wrote for him. All pussy as they all are, I don't think they could stand by and abide that.
 
Seems like the GOP will pretty much stand by watching Trump set fire to the office of the presidency, but if he starts pardoning folks for Russia, I think that's all she wrote for him. All pussy as they all are, I don't think they could stand by and abide that.

As I posted earlier, this was a direct bat signal to them that they will get pardoned and to keep their mouths shut.
 
I really think somehow America elected probably the single worst person it could have possibly elected President. Like, a 1-in-321 million chance of electing our nation's worst person to hold the job, and it actually happened.

...but her emails. And...Benghazi. And...stuff. She was so...not perfect.
 
Seems like the GOP will pretty much stand by watching Trump set fire to the office of the presidency, but if he starts pardoning folks for Russia, I think that's all she wrote for him. All pussy as they all are, I don't think they could stand by and abide that.

LOL. You have a high opinion of the GOP. They've convinced their voters Russia is a nothing burger.
 
Meh, there's enough of them that have been pretty forceful publicly (and likely moreso privately) about the special counsel. If Trump obstructs Mueller's investigation or pardons family members or associates prior to the investigation, I think that'll be so unpopular as to basically force their hand. I think NOTHING of the GOP Congress, but that is probably where the line is drawn.
 
I don't think that will be a line. Impeaching Trump will kill their future within the party.
 
Meh, there's enough of them that have been pretty forceful publicly (and likely moreso privately) about the special counsel. If Trump obstructs Mueller's investigation or pardons family members or associates prior to the investigation, I think that'll be so unpopular as to basically force their hand. I think NOTHING of the GOP Congress, but that is probably where the line is drawn.

What I don't get is they LOVE Pence and hate Trump. Without Trump in the WH, they could pick up seats.
 
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THis is what Todays dem party just didn't hear the rural white voters saying during the Obama presidency and why they keep losing. Racist corrupt cops need to be pardoned. #learningfromjhmd
 
If the bulk of GOP members on here are any sign of what the party will do then Donald was right he can shoot someone in NY and walk.

JHMD 2&2 and BKF are too busy playing whataboutism and deflecting from their party's president to care what Donald does
 
Well anybody can shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and walk if they're friends with Trump. He will just pardon them.
 
If the bulk of GOP members on here are any sign of what the party will do then Donald was right he can shoot someone in NY and walk.

JHMD 2&2 and BKF are too busy playing whataboutism and deflecting from their party's president to care what Donald does

What did trump do that was illegal?
 
I like how the standard for a President has moved from being one of the best Americans to just not doing anything illegal.
 
The Pardon of Joe Arpaio Was Worse Than You Think

Charles Sykes
Where to begin here?

In the name of “law and order,” President Trump just pardoned a man who defied the law to violate constitutional rights.

On the obvious level, his pardon was an unmistakable symbol to the darkest fringes of his nativist base. But it was also an insult to law enforcement itself. Far from being a martyr who was persecuted for “doing his job,” Sheriff Joe Arpaio was a caricature of law enforcement – living up to every stereotype of a lawless, brutal, racist cop, who ignored fundamental rights and reveled in calculated cruelty.

Good cops loathe Arpaio, regarding him as a clownish fraud who defames the profession. Imagine being a cop who respects the rule of law, who has worked to convince the community that they should trust law enforcement not to engage in racial profiling or brutality. What has Trump just said to that cop? And the people he is sworn to protect?

Here are some things you need to know about Joe Arpaio, via the Phoenix New Times:

He ran a jail that he described as a ‘concentration camp.”

Prisoners there died at an alarming rate. Close to 160 people have died in Arpaio's jails.

Prisoners hanged themselves in Sheriff Joe Arpaio's jails at a rate that dwarfed other county lockups.

One of his jailers nearly broke the neck of a paraplegic guy who had the temerity to ask for a catheter.

One time, as a publicity stunt, he marched Latino prisoners into a segregated area with electric fencing.

He arrested New Times reporters for covering him. They won a $3.75 million settlement.

Under him, the sheriff’s department failed to investigate hundreds of sex abuse cases, many of which involved children.

But he somehow found time and money to send a deputy to Hawaii to look for Barack Obama’s birth certificate.

In 2013, a federal judge confirmed what literally everyone in Phoenix knew: he’s been racially profiling Latinos.

By 2015, his fondness for racial profiling had cost county taxpayers more than $44 million. On top of the lives he had ruined.

I’ll leave it to another time to ask how someone as bizarre and unstable could become a hero to the Right. (Obviously, it’s no mystery why Trump would admire him so much.)

But as I said on MSNBC last night, the pardon of this odious thug is even worse than it appears.

By pardoning Arpaio even as a Category 4 hurricane threatened Texas, Trump was signaling his willingness to use his sweeping pardon power to protect his political allies and put them above the law. It was a nakedly political pardon that did not even bother with a fig leaf of Justice Department vetting.

By flexing his pardon power this way, Trump also sent a clear message to members of his circle and family who might find themselves caught up in other investigations, including their ties to Russia. As Philip Bump noted:

If he’s willing to pardon Joe Arpaio for ignoring a court order in service of a political goal Trump embraces, why wouldn’t he pardon another individual he respects for similarly ignoring a demand from the court. Say, a former employee or a family member who, say, was issued a subpoena to testify before a special prosecutor?

One message from the Arpaio pardon is precisely that Trump sees his evaluation of the boundaries of legality as superior to the boundaries set by the legal system. The Constitution gives him that power. As we’ve noted before the presidential pardon is absolute. He can pardon anyone for any federal crime at any time — even before the person actually faces any charges and even if no crime actually took place. There’s nothing anyone can do about it, except to impeach Trump and remove him from office to prevent him from doing it again.

All of this may come as a shock to Americans who believe that our constitutional system of checks and balances constrains the president from rewarding and protecting his cronies this way. But the reality is that “checks and balance” is really more a metaphor than a set of hard rules, and in some cases the president is unbound by anything other than precedent, democratic norms, and a sense of honor.

But what happens to this “honor system” when we have Donald Trump as president? We are finding that out on a daily basis. This is what I had in mind when I told Ana Marie Cox:

We’re being tested in a fundamental way, and I think we operate in a system that simply assumes that you have honorable people who will be constrained within political norms. Now they’re being violated on a daily basis. I don’t think America comes out on the other end of this unaffected. We’re not immune to history.


https://www.thecontrarianconservati...pardon-of-joe-arpaio-was-worse-than-you-think
 
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