It is funny - i actually agree with DR on a lot of his points. I do not like the Joel, I think it is too big and the design does not work well anymore. However, I simply feel that a better use of our money would be to modify the Joel to as good of a venue as we can. I believe that the most important aspects of a basketball atmosphere are 1) that it is loud and full; and 2) that the ticket is hard to get. That is what Duke has done and it simply works. The reason Duke has so much success is because the coach is excellent, the players are great, and Cameron rocks when they are good. I do not think there is anything special about Duke other than they have a good coach and Cameron is small, loud, packed, and a tough ticket. I grew up going to Memorial, which was a dump but damn was it loud. I went to all the games at Greensboro - it sucked and we do not want to do that again, trust me. I would like to see the Joel, in the best way possible, made smaller, move some of the students to better seats, and make the coliseum more “wake forest”. Now, whether Wake Forest will give up the revenue from 4-7 thousand UNC, Duke, or NCSU fans is the question. Carry on.