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Wake Forest Basketball - '23-24 Schedule Thread

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Xavier not happening this year, but supposedly will continue in the future.

SCHEDULE BY DATE:
11/6 - Elon - KP#337 - Season Opener
11/10 - @ Georgia - KP#154
11/16 - vs. Utah - KP#75 (Charleston, SC)
11/17 - vs. Houston or Towson (Charleston, SC)
11/19 - vs. ??? (Charleston, SC)
11/24 - Charleston Southern - KP#302
11/29 - Florida - KP#74 - ACC/SEC Challenge
12/6 - Rutgers - KP#39
12/9 - NJIT - KP#330
12/18 - Delaware State - KP#356
12/21 - Presbyterian - KP#344


SCHEDULE BY HOME/AWAY:
HOME
11/6 - Elon - KP#337 - Season Opener
11/24 - Charleston Southern - KP#302
11/29 - Florida - KP#74 - ACC/SEC Challenge
12/6 - Rutgers - KP#39
12/9 - NJIT - KP#330
12/18 - Delaware State - KP#356
12/21 - Presbyterian - KP#344

ROAD
11/10 - @ Georgia - KP#154

ACC HOME:
Duke
NCSU
GT
Pitt
UVA
VT
Clemson
Louisville
Miami
Syracuse

ACC ROAD:
Duke
NCSU
GT
Pitt
UVA
VT
BC
FSU
UNC
ND

MTE
2023 Charleston Classic - November 16, 17, & 19 (everybody plays 3 games)
Field:
Houston
LSU
St. John's
Utah
Dayton
Towson
North Texas
 
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Yikes. The Deacs avoided playing teams ranked 300 or below last year, except for SC State (corrected per Ish's post below; WF also played #351 Hampton). Sadly, other than SC State, the worst team that WF played in 2023 was L'ville at #290.

NJIT was #330 in 2023: 7-23. The Highlanders did not play a Power Conference team last season. Elon was #337 last season 8-24.
 
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Cayman Classic currently has 6 teams committed. WF, Utah State, Marshall, Drake, Oakland, Stephen F Austin.

I….hope we can get out of it, as Ole Miss has done.
 
Scheduling sub-300 KP teams is just a bad idea if you want to go to the NCAA tournament. Shittiness to that level is persistent year over year, and there is roughly a 90% chance the team will be a Q4 game the following year.
 
thatguy2016 said:
Scheduling sub-300 KP teams is just a bad idea if you want to go to the NCAA tournament. Shittiness to that level is persistent year over year, and there is roughly a 90% chance the team will be a Q4 game the following year.
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Eh I think a couple is fine at the beginning of the season, just have to win by 25+.
 
The problem is that the selection committee calls out strength of schedule as an additional determinant, such that even if you pound the horrible teams, you still get penalized for it.
 
Just clicking through KP schedules, pretty much everyone that was a tourney team from a power conference had a couple 300+ games. Totally normal and that is certainly not what is preventing us from making it.
 
Maybe the big thing I’ve seen Currie not fix since being AD. I don’t know what restrictions there may be, this seems like a glaring issue again.

We need opportunities for marquee wins. We beat teams by 25+ with Alondes and Jake and still got left out.
 
3 of the 4 from the MWC had a combined total of zero games against KP 300+. They have figured out the system
 
Assuming the other two teams for the Caymans aren't any worse than 200 in KP (no idea if that's a fair assumption) we just want to avoid playing Oakland there who is also not very good (272 in KP last year).
 
Really don't see any benefit to playing NJIT. Understand throwing Elon a bone because they are local to open the season (fwiw, Elon should be improved in 2023-4 in year 2 under Billy Taylor; they were unusually bad this past season); , but given that WF may play a craptastic team in the Cayman Classic, understand the concern about WF getting dinged for the schedule if the Deacs are a late-season bubble team. IMO, the primary reason 2022 WF didn't make the NCAAT was the OOC schedule.
 
PaddyWF said:
Maybe the big thing I’ve seen Currie not fix since being AD. I don’t know what restrictions there may be, this seems like a glaring issue again.

We need opportunities for marquee wins. We beat teams by 25+ with Alondes and Jake and still got left out.
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That year the schedule was certainly the problem, but we were far better than we expected to be when the schedule was made.

Last year we fixed that, we just were not good enough and injured.
 
The whole ACC needs to schedule tougher. Only Louisville, UNC, Virginia, Duke, FSU had better non-conference ratings than us. Our non-conference SOS was 236 (KP).

State/Pitt/Clemson all had weak schedule with good conference records and barely got in the tournament, or were left out with a lot of conference wins.

This is not a winning formula for the conference, and there should be a coordinated effort to fix this.

Yes, we should all "win games," and you have to also give yourself more chances for marquee wins. Cause you are going to have bad nights when you lose to some lesser team no matter what, or have a smaller MOV.

The MWC has definitely figured this out, they only had 3/11 teams last season with a non-conference SOS of >200. ACC had 10/15 with >200. Some in the upper 200s.
 
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