I will agree that none of us are really adding a whole lot at this point, and we never will. We are all chatting on a sports message board while our team sucks ass. If we were in first place, we would still be adding nothing, although it would be more fun doing it. I guess those of us complaining about the current situation and asking for change are about as useful as your prognostications based on one mediocre season in the NBA in the 90s.
I also have no use for those posters who continually chime in to say "another year of Buzz, get over it." The one thing more frustrating than the current state of our basketball program is that nobody is going to even try and fix it. I'm not just buzz out...I'm firmly Ron-out. He has been embarrassingly bad the past half decade, and his leadership "style" will lead to many more years of LOWF mentality around here. I, for one, would rather try something else and actually strive for something better rather than enjoying the permanent status quo. Every historic program at some point hired a coach that began building a legacy. There is no reason that can't happen at Wake...it may be tough, but it will never happen while Ron is running the show.
Lastly, though I am often drunk while posting, I have better things to do while doing blow.
Turd:
1-1st paragraph makes sense
2-Indeed there are people working slave hours to try and fix it, you just don't think they can
3-Your argument regarding Wellman is pretty laughable. He's hired two legacy coaches: Grobe, who a little over 5 years ago took us to the Orange Bowl, and Skip, who made our program more than relevant again, it was top tier - we just didn't win in the post season. But those were two great hires.
What you should type is this:
"I'm young, I'm half drunk, I want it now. Wellman is old. I'm not. I want change I can believe in! For like 12 months before I re-judge all over again."
I have no problem with buzz-outers. Really don't. I can even understand an argument that Ron needs to be held more accountable, but just to lay out the last 12 years for you:
* He hired Skip, who totally changed the culture. We were relevant, exciting, packed the Joel, and Skip swung for the fences in recruiting, going toe to toe with Duke, Carolina, Indiana, Gtech, and fucking Ohio fucking State.
* He hire Grobe and directed the remaking of our football stadium under limited funds
* Directed additional upgrades in practice facilities, baseball stadium, soccer, etc...
* Has been AD of a department that has won national championships in men's soccer and women's field hockey, went to the Orange Bowl, received #1 and #2 seeds in the NCAA tournament, etc...
Dude, about a year before Skip died, it had never been so fucking good at Wake. As in ever. If anybody is singularly responsible for dashing the LOWF moniker, it's fucking Ron, dipshit. Seriously, catch a clue, catch something anyway, a cold, a sexually transmitted disease, anything, because you aren't capturing what has gone done within the athletic department over the last 12 years, 5 years, etc...
If you want to lay blame on the basketball program, here are the variables, if you ask me: power conference expansion, Butler, Jay Vidovich, Ohio State, Skip's heart, the internet, and the money in college athletics
* If Butler doesn't happen, Ron and Hatch maybe don't have the courage to tear down to build up
* If Vidovich hadn't so dramatically succeeded after his predecessor died of a heart attack at Wake, maybe Ron doesn't consider Dino after the exact same thing happens to the basketball program
* If Matta wasn't just goddamn it, good at what he does, Conley, Oden, and probably Cook come to Wake and history changes
* Our success within the NCAA dynamic can't just stand still like it is 2007. Calipari at Kentucky has happened, conferences are realigning, money is being made hand over fist - truth is what worked in 2007 is going to antiquated in 2012 and that's one of Ron's challenges.
Edited to add one other variable: fucking PITTSNOGLE and the white guard WE NEVER FUCKING GUARDED EVEN THOUGH HE WAS HITTING SHOT AFTER SHOT
There you go, have at it.