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who should play in the national championship??

timthedeac said:
1-loss SEC champ Mizzou should not jump undefeated Big Ten champ tOSU. No win over Bama and playing in a watered-down SEC east really weaken the resume compared to Auburn
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Even though Mizzous only loss at that point would have been without their starting QB in double OT?

Also to me you either stand by the strength of the conference or don't. Either a 1 loss SEC team deserves it over tOSU or they don't, but to pick based on division undermines the whole strength of conference argument
 
Anyone who thinks Auburn jumps tOSU in the BCS rankings has no grasp reality or how the rankings work.

And yes, TWMD, you are correct about the strength of schedule but people are ignoring that because of how FSU has won. In fact, Sagarin has FSU's SOS at 76 with tOSU at 65. And tOSU's would only drop more after playing Michigan State.

The object of each football game is to win. FSU and tOSU have thus far done that in power conferences and if they win their final game, both will be in the BCS Championship game.

Auburn shouldn't have lost. That's just the way it is.

And good thing we won't have this controversy in future years with the BCS game gone. Well, except for the debates over which team deserves the 5th spot and so forth. That'll be fun.
 
The SEC has won the past 7 National Championships. 7 for 7 in that game. That fact alone should give the SEC a huge benefit of the doubt when it comes to close calls.

Missouri's loss was in double OT without their starting QB. Auburn's loss was a night game in Baton Rouge in a monsoon that slopped up the field which really hurt the ability to cut and run.

Ohio State has only played 3 teams all year that were not TERRIBLE and all three were one score games on the final possession.

Legit arguments could be made for both. It will come down to how much the voters view the SEC as the best conference vs. how much weight they give to an undefeated record. Many of these opinions will be reserved until they see how the teams perform in their respective championship games.

I favor the one loss SEC team that wins. If this was basketball which resume would get the higher seed?...IMO it's the one loss SEC team every time.
 
AnonymousDeac said:
Anyone who thinks Auburn jumps tOSU in the BCS rankings has no grasp reality or how the rankings work.
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The BCS rankings work by a combination of computer polls (which factor in things like SOS) and human rankings (USA today and Harris). If Auburn beats Missouri then there is a chance their SOS would be so high that they could be ranked 1 (ahead of both FSU and OSU) by several computer polls. If this happens as well as a certain percentage of voters (not a majority) rank Auburn ahead of Ohio State on their USA Today and Harris ballots, Auburn could jump to #2 in the BCS while being #3 in both human polls. (Missouri doesn't have the SOS to get to #1 in the computers with one loss.)

So yes, it's still very possible for Auburn to jump OSU in the BCS poll. It will all depend on how the teams perform in their championship games and how many voters move Auburn ahead of OSU on their Harris and USA Today ballots. Again, it doesn't have to be a majority depending on how high the computers rank Auburn.

This current system is terrible. Next year will be much better.
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If FSU and OSU win their respective league championship games they should play each other for the national championship. Fuck Alabama and the SEC.
 
The argument for a 1-loss SEC team getting over tO$U because of the record of the conference in the title game is a little ironic. Pretty sure Urban Meyer won a couple of those.
 
It helps when they default to the top of the line to get in the game every year too. This year there just happens to be two undefeated teams in other conferences.
 
DeacdeTejas said:
Even though Mizzous only loss at that point would have been without their starting QB in double OT?

Also to me you either stand by the strength of the conference or don't. Either a 1 loss SEC team deserves it over tOSU or they don't, but to pick based on division undermines the whole strength of conference argument
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Well there is unbalanced scheduling. USC would have represented the East with a Mizzou loss yesterday without playing Bama, Auburn, LSU, or TAMU.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
The argument for a 1-loss SEC team getting over tO$U because of the record of the conference in the title game is a little ironic. Pretty sure Urban Meyer won a couple of those.
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It's also wholly irrelevant. We're not picking who should play in the 2010 BCS championship.
 
If Auburn beats Missouri and FSU beats Duke then I think other should be Auburn and FSU.
 
I'm most offended that in a conference with east and west divisions, Missouri is the winner of the east.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
I know FSU is unanimous number 1, but really why is their schedule that much better than OSU. They play in what is also a really shitty ACC conference. Their marquee wins are over a Clemson team and a very very overrate Miami team. OSU marquee wins over a Wisconsin team and a very very overrated Northwestern team. They get to play Duke in the ACC championship to secure a birth in the National Championship, OSU gets to play MSU. One being much harder than the other. I hate OSU and how they luck into the championship games but this is a case where undefeated in a power conference pretty much should trump all. In reality we had probably a more exciting game in Auburn vs Alabama than we will see in any matchup. Just like last year how it was UGA vs Alabama in the championship that was way better than the eventually shitshow Notre Dame. Its why the playoff was needed to get at least some good championship game. In reality Id love to see all the top 10 teams play each other.
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I don't disagree with your points and that a playoff is needed. But I will say this for F$U, first they have just plain looked stronger than OSU. Second, their schedule looked a lot stronger a year or so ago than it does now. They always play Florida, who just happened to suck this year, and they originally scheduled WVU, who dissed F$U, so F$U had to go out and replace WVU with some crap school.

In terms of scenarios, F$U is in the title game. Only way to prevent that inevitability is if Jameis gets charged with rape this week (not gonna happen), and if their other 21 starters get charged with aiding and abetting. Mich St is a very good team. If OSU beats them, it'll be OSU/F$U. You can diss an undefeated school from a lesser conference - see TCU. You can't diss an undefeated power school from a BCS conference, especially 1 with the name Ohio St and who went undefeated last year as well. Just ain't gonna happen.

That said, I think there is a strong chance Mich St wins next week. If Auburn wins, then it's an easy call - F$U/Auburn - and literally no one would dispute that. But if Missouri wins, and especially if they don't look great, and Auburn throws away the game, I'm not so sure Missouri is such a lock. At that point, I think there'd be a bit of a groundswell for a F$U/Bama title game.

My prediction is Mich St and Auburn win, and we get that Auburn/F$U match.
 
The argument for OSU sounds a lot like the argument for Notre Dame last year. And Notre Dame had actual quality wins.
 
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ACCOffice said:
Chance of making that fg was less than chance ot it being returned for td. hard for 9 300 lb guys and a kicker and a holder to catch a 4.3 return specialist
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This exactly. I called it too, except I thought it would be blocked and returned. Saban major fuck up.
 
Prediction: Missouri will beat Auburn. Michigan State will beat Ohio State. The national championship will be Florida State versus Alabama.
 
We're only one indictment away from Dook playing in a BCS bowl. We all know Dook gets a lot of calls, but they need one more.
 
As for who should play in the championship my vote would be for FSU (assuming they beat Duke and Winston is eligible) v. The SEC Champ.
 
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