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Grobe interviews for UAB Job

Given the above personal accounts of UAB, I'm not sure why a 61 year old man with PLENTY of money in the bank would want to take on such a miserable job.
 
inspectah said:
This actually seems like a good fit for Grobe if he wants to keep coaching. Fairly small school/program, low expectations, in a part of the country he likes, near his new home in Georgia, etc.
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Grobe has already left W-S?
 
The older you get the more you hate young people. Grobe has a decade of coaching in him. He may have lost the fire at Wake but I have no doubt he could pump energy into UAB. Jesus, this board thinks anyone over 40 should be in a nursing home. Well, when you guys reach 50 or 60 let me know if you need a feeding tube.
 
College football players are young people. Does Grobe hate them?
 
DirkTheDeac said:
The older you get the more you hate young people. Grobe has a decade of coaching in him. He may have lost the fire at Wake but I have no doubt he could pump energy into UAB. Jesus, this board thinks anyone over 40 should be in a nursing home. Well, when you guys reach 50 or 60 let me know if you need a feeding tube.
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I think the problem wasn't his age, rather the inverse relationship between his age and his winning percentage
 
PhDeac said:
College football players are young people. Does Grobe hate them?
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He loves coaching. He likes kids just fine, I'm sure. It's a well paid, thankless job. Myself, I think this place is a social lab experiment. Wouldn't you agree? I can gauge the age of posters most of the time. And anyone who thinks Grobe is too old to be a head coach has never met Jim Grobe.
 
HowBoutDemDeacs said:
I think the problem wasn't his age, rather the inverse relationship between his age and his winning percentage
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That is fair. Coaches have to win. He won an ACC title. Now it's Clawson's turn. Think that is going to happen?
 
I don't think anybody is saying Grobe is too old to be a head coach. There are plenty of great coaches in their 60s. I think people are wondering why a 61 year old with a lot of money in the bank would want to pursue a well-paid thankless job.
 
DirkTheDeac said:
That is fair. Coaches have to win. He won an ACC title. Now it's Clawson's turn. Think that is going to happen?
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In a sales job, if you were the top seller in the region 7 years ago, but consistently failed to reach your goals in each subsequent year, would you keep your job?

If you were a surgeon, who performed the most successful surgery in the nation and saved the president's life, but started killing people left and right in botched surgeries for 7 years after, would you keep your job?

If you never get over that 2006 fluke season where everything went right in one season that didn't go right for 70 years before it, you will never see the big picture: a program with no identity, no traction in the conference and no chance to compete year-in and year-out.
 
PhDeac said:
I don't think anybody is saying Grobe is too old to be a head coach. There are plenty of great coaches in their 60s. I think people are wondering why a 61 year old with a lot of money in the bank would want to pursue a well-paid thankless job.
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It's simple. He likes coaching and it is all he knows. He's passionate about it. He's not ready to take up a hobby (golf in his case) full time. More power to him. We are all going to get there and feel the same way. Think for a minute if tenure ended at 62.
 
He didn't do his job well the last few years and will have a tough time finding a job because of it. That's the point. Not age. His age and past salary simply makes it easier for him to go without a job unlike Lobo.
 
HowBoutDemDeacs said:
In a sales job, if you were the top seller in the region 7 years ago, but consistently failed to reach your goals in each subsequent year, would you keep your job?

If you were a surgeon, who performed the most successful surgery in the nation and saved the president's life, but started killing people left and right in botched surgeries for 7 years after, would you keep your job?

If you never get over that 2006 fluke season where everything went right in one season that didn't go right for 70 years before it, you will never see the big picture: a program with no identity, no traction in the conference and no chance to compete year-in and year-out.
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He left by his own volition. That should tell you all you need to know. Have you ever burned out on a job and moved on to another and found new energy? I hope you will. It happens. It happens every day. Not just in coaching. And not many of us are salesman of the year or surgeon of the year... but Grobe was coach of the year. He's got that in the trophy case.
 
Well, there are different issues going on here. Age, performance, the linking of the two. I think Grobe could still be successful at the higher level. Paterno didn't fade until his 70s. My point is that Grobe in his 60s should not be discounted. And I do understand the guy only gave us one ACC title. Of course, if you look across the fence at Carolina and State it should give you pause... it doesn't happen every day.
 
You're the one harping on age. The rest are harping on performance.
 
PhDeac said:
You're the one harping on age. The rest are harping on performance.
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I think the implication is he is over the hill. But if you want to go by performance, I'd take my ACC title and coach of the year award and march into the UAB office thinking I already have the job. Let's get real here. He did things at Wake nobody, aside from some on this board, ever thought possible. And I get the fact the last years were bad. Let's give the man credit for coming in and making things happen. But let's also be realistic about how we keep that going. The Wake and Duke jobs are about the toughest in D1. Well, there is Rice but let's get real.
 
DirkTheDeac said:
I think the implication is he is over the hill. But if you want to go by performance, I'd take my ACC title and coach of the year award and march into the UAB office thinking I already have the job. Let's get real here. He did things at Wake nobody, aside from some on this board, ever thought possible. And I get the fact the last years were bad. Let's give the man credit for coming in and making things happen. But let's also be realistic about how we keep that going. The Wake and Duke jobs are about the toughest in D1. Well, there is Rice but let's get real.
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Both Duke and Rice were 10-4 and won their divisions this year; Rice was conference champion. We OTOH went 4-8. I agree that Duke and Rice are tough places to win, but right now they're in a place we're about 5 years removed from.
 
mebanedeac said:
This is sad. If he can't get hired at UAB, what does that say about our decision to wait so long to make a change?
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Waiting so long.....

Maybe we should have fired him in 2005 after 4 straight losing seasons... Then maybe we don't win ACC championship. I think Grobe stepped down at the right time. and I think he is a fine fine coach. He's not a "hot name" but UAB would be lucky to have him.

I don't think it says anything about "us" if UAB finds another great candidate, or is stupid enough not to hire someone with Grobe's resume.
 
Over the hill doesn't mean he's old. It means his best accomplishments are well behind him and the odds of him climbing back up another hill again are small.
 
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