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So cavedeac is jhmd?
As frustrating as jhmd can be at times, he's never tried to hide behind an alias when he posts unpopular ideas.
So cavedeac is jhmd?
Doesn't make it ok.
It's honestly probably a generational problem. I don't think it would affect her presidency, but if she didn't have staff that told her it was wrong, that's on her.
There were official documents and policies pre-2010 that recognized the fact that simple security features such as public encryption and digital signatures were not available on government systems and detailed how employees were to use other email systems if they required those capabilities. The public evidence of this is that prior to 2010 you wouldn't see any mobile email device outside of a blackberry that was dedicated only to government email being used by the vast majority of officials. Those that didn't use them, had multiple accounts on their own devices at that time, or used a dedicated phone other than a blackberry were using their own solution.
There were few requirements on email until 2010 mainly because all the executive-level folks at various agencies had their own way of doing business. The vast majority used a government email for some things and personal email for others - but did not split them between personal/business and it was not required to do so. All that was required was the basics of record keeping and data protection which is entrusted to all government employees.
For a year we were encouraged to use encrypted Gmail with two-factor authentication, and had to print out our emails and store them. Even the DHS email system wasn't completed in 2008 - they were on Exchange 2003, without a comprehensive solution for encrypting or retaining all email. Don't make me laugh regarding US-CERT (or "Einstein" if you prefer) - that was nowhere 7 years ago, and when they realized exactly how many agencies and groups and individuals were using their own solutions the had to form an entire new program just to reduce the number of places US-CERT had to exist. A year after it was mandated it was in less than 1% of where it was supposed to be.
Maybe it's because I've seen that effort from the ground level that this doesn't move the needle for me - not if Hillary did it, not if Bush did it. What would matter is if records were destroyed intentionally. Emails from 7+ years ago being deleted through negligence... Meh. I mean, good luck finding anyone in government who can produce all their emails from 2007 if they weren't maintaining them privately. Everyone just thinks they're on a server somewhere or in a tape in some magic bunker or something - they're more than likely not.
As frustrating as jhmd can be at times, he's never tried to hide behind an alias when he posts unpopular ideas.
Hilary using the private email server was wrong. There's no two ways about it. It was done that way not out of convenience but out of her and Bill's desire to be secretive and control the narrative as best they can.
Doesn't make it ok.
It's honestly probably a generational problem. I don't think it would affect her presidency, but if she didn't have staff that told her it was wrong, that's on her.
I don't think LK can reveal how the admins and mods know the activity of posters to other posters just on request.
Then he shouldn't talk about it at all.
I'd like to see an audit of all elected and appointed members of government's use of email and adherence to the rules/laws regarding 1) use of private email/server for official government business and 2) sending classified email unsecured from proper servers. Just for comparison.
There was a post on one of these threads the last time we did this dance that revealed that less than 5% (i believe) of government officials used only their government email for official government correspondence. I'll have to look it up...
Its not like its some fucking mystery. Cava pretends he has only been lurking for a few weeks, hence the join date which is public of 6/19. LK does an IP search, sees that Cava shares a unique IP with a long time lurker/poster and there you go. Its not some great amazing hack, just like RJs password disaster wasn't some crazy security breach.
Nice, so we are going to go with the typical UNC everyone does it, we just got caught approach. I like it.
Media Matters journalist says he thinks there is no way a Jeb Bush story would have gone front page like this,
I'd like to see an audit of all elected and appointed members of government's use of email and adherence to the rules/laws regarding 1) use of private email/server for official government business and 2) sending classified email unsecured from proper servers. Just for comparison.
There was a post on one of these threads the last time we did this dance that revealed that less than 5% (i believe) of government officials used only their government email for official government correspondence. I'll have to look it up...
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Doubt it, but don't remember.Did you participate in OGB's thread about outing parodies if they entered into the red? This is like that except it doesn't reveal who is behind the parody -- if that is in fact what is going on.