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Has there ever been a more clownshow election than this?

RaleighDevil said:
Paul didn't have much of a chance after ISIS got going. Unlike Clinton, he's for having us mind our business. It would have been a great debate between a believer in limiting government and one who loves it and likes to bomb people.
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No, that debate will still be there with a much more authentic libertarian candidate.
 
Which Republicans should have run/could have won?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Lil Marco really missed his opportunity. If he had his shit together he could have run a competitive race with Hillary.
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So much this. Before the season got started (i.e. before Trump), I mistakenly thought Rubio was the strongest candidate the GOP had in years (including W, who won for other reasons). Then it turns out the guy couldn't translate his Florida campaign apparatus into something national, couldn't fake being a functional human under the spotlight, and wilted under the pressure from his fellow candidates.

He'll run again in 2020 for sure (unless he loses his Senate election), but I can't see him getting traction.
 
Has there ever been a more clownshow election than this?



No.
 
deacvision7 said:
Has there ever been a more clownshow election than this?



No.
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oh, I don't know ... 1924 was less than 100 years ago and that was an epic, epic, epic clownshow. The Democratic Convention was in Madison Square Garden and lasted for 16 days as they fought it out over the candidates, was nicknamed the "Klanbake" because one candidate was backed publicly by the KKK and the party was unable to pass a plank denouncing the KKK. There were around 60 different candidates that got votes and by the 10th day of the convention 20,000 Klansmen were across the river burning crosses with anti-Klan candidates in effigy. John W. Davis won the nomination on the 103rd ballot and then proceeded to get crushed by Calvin Coolidge in the general election ... a president who famously tried to do as little as possible and hated the job so much (and loved his vacations in South Dakota so much) that he just said fuck it and refused to run for re-election.

I cannot imagine a way that this clownshow even begins to approach the lunacy of 1924.
 
I'd vote for Petraeus based on his post-military, post-CIA career alone.
 
deacvision7 said:
no, dummy, it is a lame attack on Hillary
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I've always thought JHMD was smart even though I disagreed with him and I guess I was giving him too much credit. I thought the Petraeus/Clinton comparisons were just reserved for the lowest common denominators. You're better than that JHMD. Petraeus intentionally provided his mistress who was a journalist with highly classified material from his command in Afghanistan. Hillary was an idiot to set up a server at her home but she didn't intentionally hand over classified information.
 
vadimivich said:
Wait, really? He was convicted of a pretty serious crime (not a felony, he pled it down). There's literally no chance he could have won an election.
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He's been convicted, it's true. If you put aside the fact that Hillary has gotten away with more than he was charged with (even before the plea) and just take his blind resume against that of either of the remaining candidates, he'd be the best in the field, and it isn't even close.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
I've always thought JHMD was smart even though I disagreed with him and I guess I was giving him too much credit. I thought the Petraeus/Clinton comparisons were just reserved for the lowest common denominators. You're better than that JHMD. Petraeus intentionally provided his mistress who was a journalist with highly classified material from his command in Afghanistan.
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Now we care about InfoSec? I thought we decided that that wasn't a thing about ten days ago.
 
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