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Ongoing gun violence/injury thread

So....it’s been 48+ hours...still no condemnation by any conservatives other than Creamy of the president for inspiring yet another act of terror in innocent people?

Or condemnation of his hypocritical call for unity yesterday followed by his divisive tweet today?

I see angus dropped in on another thread to say something g about the NYT like clockwork. Guess he and the others are steering clear of this one.

I counted one republican member of congress who came out against trump. The rest are silent or blaming video games.

True bravery, Republicans.
 
And just like that the lone republican senator who has called a spade a spade has now been asked to leave the party.

No diversity in thought allowed, apparently. It’s lockstep bootlicking or your ass is kicked to the curb.
 
PhDeac said:
My idea would be to include red flags as part of a package of reforms to make owning a gun like owning a car. If you’ve been flagged for something like making threats and getting suspended from school, your gun license is suspended for a period of time, then you can be re-evaluated.
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I’m obviously not asking the question right. I agree with the inclusion of “red flags”. The problem is, a HS student”s disciplinary record, including suspensions, is not part of the public record. There’s no way any threats the Dayton shooter made in school could ever be red flags.
 
DDA said:
And just like that the lone republican senator who has called a spade a spade has now been asked to leave the party.

No diversity in thought allowed, apparently. It’s lockstep bootlicking or your ass is kicked to the curb.
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you mean the Nebraska state senator, right? because I'm not aware of a GOP US senator saying anything
 
Shorty said:
I’m obviously not asking the question right. I agree with the inclusion of “red flags”. The problem is, a HS student”s disciplinary record, including suspensions, is not part of the public record. There’s no way any threats the Dayton shooter made in school could ever be red flags.
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And I’m saying it should be a red flag that would restrict someone’s ability to purchase or carry a gun.
 
Colonel Angus said:
Not a surprise that Numbers the mental midget is repeating false left wing talking points.

The ACLU (you know, that conservative organization) led the way in opposing this regulation.

Trump is a buffoon but this is yet another example of why the MSM is a joke.


You and Jay are simply ignoring the additional part of that regulation dealing with individuals who are deemed mentally incapable of handling their own benefits payments. All you have to do is read the actual language. To say they don’t relate to mental health is belied by the actual language.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
You and Jay are simply ignoring the additional part of that regulation dealing with individuals who require a representative payee are deemed mentally incapable of handling their own benefits payments. All you have to do is read the actual language. To say they don’t relate to mental health is belied by the actual language.
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Edited the above post to include “representative payee” because for some reason it wouldn’t edit.
 
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If people are held not to be mentally capable of handling this process why in the world would we not want them to be barred from buying firearms? Additionally - as Milhouse points out - it did roll back an Obama era regulation. What is the false part? You’re literally doing what you accuse others of doing in relying on some random DC examiner author’s (wrong) analysis. We all know that you don’t actually know what the regulation is or was anyway.
 
Not only that. Under the regulation people who were held to lack capacity had the right to appeal such designation providing due process safeguards
 
PhDeac said:
And I’m saying it should be a red flag that would restrict someone’s ability to purchase or carry a gun.
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OK. I thought you had an idea, but you clearly don”’t. Here’s the issue with your “...it should be a red flag...”. No high school is going to share disciplinary information about a student with anyone other than the student and the parents. That information can never become a red flag because no one other than the school, the student, and the parents will ever know it existed.
 
You keep bashing my ideas to change the system by saying the current system doesn’t allow it.

And clearly your argument doesn’t fly because his classmates reported him, knew he was suspended, and were scared of him. That’s well beyond just the school, student, and parents.
 
PhDeac said:
You keep bashing my ideas to change the system by saying the current system doesn’t allow it.

And clearly your argument doesn’t fly because his classmates reported him, knew he was suspended, and were scared of him. That’s well beyond just the school, student, and parents.
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When did the classmates report him?
 
PhDeac said:
You keep bashing my ideas to change the system by saying the current system doesn’t allow it.

And clearly your argument doesn’t fly because his classmates reported him, knew he was suspended, and were scared of him. That’s well beyond just the school, student, and parents.
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People who disagree with you or who are questioning your ideas are not “bashing” them.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
If people are held not to be mentally capable of handling this process why in the world would we not want them to be barred from buying firearms? Additionally - as Milhouse points out - it did roll back an Obama era regulation. What is the false part? You’re literally doing what you accuse others of doing in relying on some random DC examiner author’s (wrong) analysis. We all know that you don’t actually know what the regulation is or was anyway.
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Expecting Brad to read something for the actual content is a bridge too far. It is not within his skill set. He's only capable of scanning twitter to find other cretins who post stuff that might allow him to yell "GOTCHA!!!!"
 
PhDeac said:
That's why he was suspended.
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Of course kids know when a student is suspended. But they don’t know the content of the school’s disciplinary record, which is still known only to the student, the parents, and the school. What is known beyond that is what the kids said to the media after the fact.

If you can get high schools to make information about conversations students have with school administrators regarding another student, as well as that student’s disciplinary record available to background checkers, let me know. Because if you can do that, then we have your red flag. Until then, we’re stuck with “ it should be.”
 
thatguy2016 said:
you mean the Nebraska state senator, right? because I'm not aware of a GOP US senator saying anything
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Yea, I thought he was GOP, is he not? If not, are we back down to zero?
 
DDA said:
Yea, I thought he was GOP, is he not? If not, are we back down to zero?
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yes, he's GOP, but he's a state senator

so we're at zero of 300+ national reps/senators and 1 out of 1,000's of state politicians
 
Shorty, you're stuck on disciplinary records. I'm not talking about disciplinary records. I'm talking about people red flagging someone's behavior and establishing a system that determines if that person's gun license should be suspended as a result.
 
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