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2021 Republican Coup (Practice Run)

2021 Republican Coup (Attempt?)

all part of the plan. weed out a couple of decoys to look like you're doing your job, then let the rest do what they planned.

The American military and justice institutions are very similar to our currency, in that their value and trustworthiness isn’t based on anything tangible, it’s completely based on our faith in it. Can America, as a nation that spends trillions a year to police the world, really *afford* to investigate the morality and political biases of prominent service members?
 
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the real answer is "how can we not?" unfortunately the real, necessary, hard work of trying to live up to the lip service ideals of the founding father's vision is... not easy.
 
How do you get your wavering cult followers back in the fold after staging a violent insurrection? Declare a national sanctity of life day.
 
2021 Republican Coup (Attempt?)

the real answer is "how can we not?" unfortunately the real, necessary, hard work of trying to live up to the lip service ideals of the founding father's vision is... not easy.

Eh, I don’t think America’s cultural liberalism extends as far into our institutions as we would like to believe, and it’s much easier to pretend otherwise and paint the facade than to actually make changes.

 
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Eh, I don’t think America’s cultural liberalism extends as far into our institutions as we would like to believe, and it’s much easier to pretend otherwise and paint the facade than to actually make changes.

saying the same thing.
 
2021 Republican Coup (Attempt?)

saying the same thing.

True, I think we both agree it’s a very difficult task to weed out all the white supremacists and fascists from the military. I think my point was that I don’t believe our government actually has the stomach to see that task carried out, because the authoritarian culture & mindset that populates our law enforcement and military strongly overlaps with fascism and white supremacy. So how far are we digging into peoples lives to make those judgement calls? You know, what’s the standard for acceptable beliefs vs unacceptable?

It appears that the current investigation is strictly about active membership in a militia.
 
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same page. i was more referring to the "intestinal fortitude" of the American people to insist on the difficult work of fixing these issues. far too easy to accept the status quo rather than rolling up our sleeves and making sure people that want to fix them get elected. and reelected.
 
if we have not learned anything over the last 4 years is that people don't want to "fix these issues"...they believe it is a you and not them problem. it is ingrained in them through their parents, friends and church.

yes, the church in southern states has totally been brainwashed to believe anything different (guy, trains, mix-race, what-have-you) is bad and against the bible.
 
Self-styled militia members planned on storming the U.S. Capitol days in advance of Jan. 6 attack, court documents say

Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, communicating in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talking about hunting for lawmakers to make “citizen’s arrests,” according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

“We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday.
FBI probes possible connections between extremist groups at heart of Capitol violence
“You are executing citizen’s arrest. Arrest this assembly, we have probable cause for acts of treason, election fraud,” a man replied, according to communications recovered from her phone, the FBI alleged.

“We are in the main dome right now. We are rocking it. They are throwing grenades, they are fricking shooting people with paint balls. But we are in here,” a woman believed to be Watkins said, according to court documents.

A man then responds, “Get it, Jess,” saying this is everything they had trained for.
“Get it, Jess. Do your f------g thing. This is what we f------ng [unintelligible] up for. Everything we f------ing trained for,” a man responds.


The extraordinary real-time narration of parts of the assault on the Capitol came as investigators made public new details of events in unsealed conspiracy charges in which thousands of pro-Trump supporters forced the evacuation of lawmakers and triggered violence that left five people dead.

FBI charging papers against Caldwell, Watkins and a third man, former U.S. Marine Donovan Crowl, 50, allege that Caldwell and others coordinated in advance to disrupt Congress, scouted for lodging and recruited Oath Keepers members from North Carolina and like-minded groups from the Shenandoah Valley. Participants both anticipated violence and continued to act in concert after the break-in, investigators said in court documents.
 
Whether everyone else just happened to be there and got caught up in the moment, or if this is just the tip of the iceberg, how much this will grow at this point I can’t tell you, but we are continuing to investigate aggressively,” the official said, asking for anonymity to discuss a pending investigation.

In charging papers, the FBI said during the Capital riot, Caldwell received Facebook messages from unspecified senders updating him of the location of lawmakers. When he posted a one-word message, “Inside,” he received exhortations and directions describing tunnels, doors and hallways, the FBI said.

Another message read, “All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in. Turn on gas,” the FBI added.
 

If it was planned in advance then Trump's Impeachment is a HOAX, since his speech didn't matter!
 
Imagine being that guy. Spend some time reflecting today Mark.
 
I was hoping that these folks would reconsider once they saw the arrests and firings. So far seems to be okay.
 

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