I would’ve thought national treasures would’ve been sought after way before they open it up to smokers.
I would’ve thought national treasures would’ve been sought after way before they open it up to smokers.
Are there links for this 80% reduction in transmission stat? I have looked for articles on this, and haven't found much of anything. I definitely have not seen something suggesting an 80% effectiveness.
The most I have seen are links that say that the viral load is more quickly lower for people that have been vaccinated, and that this could lead to less transmission because the higher viral loads are more easily spread.
People with SARS-CoV-2, which is the virus that causes COVID-19, who show no symptoms may account for more than half of all transmission cases of the disease.
A new study helps alleviate concerns that people who have been vaccinated may still be vulnerable to symptom-free, or “asymptomatic,” COVID-19 and will, therefore, spread the virus to others.
The study suggests that people who have had two doses of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine are 80% less likely to develop asymptomatic COVID-19 than people who have not been vaccinated.
Are there links for this 80% reduction in transmission stat? I have looked for articles on this, and haven't found much of anything. I definitely have not seen something suggesting an 80% effectiveness.
The most I have seen are links that say that the viral load is more quickly lower for people that have been vaccinated, and that this could lead to less transmission because the higher viral loads are more easily spread.
I mean, it does prevent you from spreading it though.
Sure, can almost never talk in absolutes. But there seems to be this idea going around that it doesn't do anything to prevent spread, which is clearly wrong.
Yeah the lab rat is just wrong when it comes to antibodies and what a vaccine does in comparison to what an infection does.
I mean, please. Educate me. mRNA vaccines weren't a thing when I earned my degree.
Think of the coronavirus as a mosquito and the mRNA vaccines go pew pew to the mosquito then the mosquito doesn’t want or need blood any more
Think of the coronavirus as a mosquito and the mRNA vaccines go pew pew to the mosquito then the mosquito doesn’t want or need blood any more
I'm not trying to be obtuse. For real.
Like, there are MD's on here who have more scientific education than I do. I've got lab experience with mRNA, but not in the context of vaccines. I understand the vector and (roughly) the mechanisms that Pfizer/Moderna use. I haven't seen reliable information that indicates that the antibody response from the mRNA vaccines materially differ from a naturally acquired immune response to a COVID infection.
I know that some vaccines for other illnesses function on different vectors/mechanisms and have different protective benefits. But I have no reason to believe that a Pfizer vaccine isn't just as good as getting infected with COVID from a disease insulation standpoint.
Anecdotally, Pfizer turned me into a god damned superman. I've been exposed to COVID at least six times on paper (like, straight up been with someone for an extended time minutes/hours before they test positive and I've been notified), and at least a dozen times where I strongly suspect that the person that I've interacted with had COVID, but I didn't get paper notification.
I've been in a jail cell for 30 minutes with a motherfucker eating a PB&J, spitting fucking pieces of it on my suit as he talks to me. Dude tested positive less than six hours after that. I was a little worn out after, but no other impact.
I've been tested for the virus 11 times and once for antibodies. All virus tests negative, antibodies positive.
But I have no reason to believe that a Pfizer vaccine isn't just as good as getting infected with COVID from a disease insulation standpoint.
I'm not trying to be obtuse. For real.
Like, there are MD's on here who have more scientific education than I do. I've got lab experience with mRNA, but not in the context of vaccines. I understand the vector and (roughly) the mechanisms that Pfizer/Moderna use. I haven't seen reliable information that indicates that the antibody response from the mRNA vaccines materially differ from a naturally acquired immune response to a COVID infection.
I know that some vaccines for other illnesses function on different vectors/mechanisms and have different protective benefits. But I have no reason to believe that a Pfizer vaccine isn't just as good as getting infected with COVID from a disease insulation standpoint.
Anecdotally, Pfizer turned me into a god damned superman. I've been exposed to COVID at least six times on paper (like, straight up been with someone for an extended time minutes/hours before they test positive and I've been notified), and at least a dozen times where I strongly suspect that the person that I've interacted with had COVID, but I didn't get paper notification.
I've been in a jail cell for 30 minutes with a motherfucker eating a PB&J, spitting fucking pieces of it on my suit as he talks to me. Dude tested positive less than six hours after that. I was a little worn out after, but no other impact.
I've been tested for the virus 11 times and once for antibodies. All virus tests negative, antibodies positive.