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What rounds will Boogie, Sage, & Newman get drafted?

For reference, Tyreek Hill ran a 4.29 at the combine. You've seen Roberson play. He's nowhere near that, let alone within 0.13 seconds.
 
I mean, there's a reason for the Combine, right? Everything is calibrated to a single standard.
 
Would have to agree on Roberson deserving more love given his All Acc level play for 2 years and good pro day workout numbers. Pretty sure I read at one point during the season that Pro Football Focus had him graded as one of the top receivers in NCAA last 2 years…just a smidge below the Alabama guys. I know he had a injury late in the year and supposedly minor surgery but something just doesn’t add up about getting no combine invitation, draft love, etc. Hope his pro day shows he is recovered and he gets in the right NFL situation and gets a chance to prove himself.
 
Other than the freaks that come thru our program (bates, Herron, Tom), the others need to find a niche in the league. AT May be an exception
 
I think Roberson is going to be a Day 2 or 3 guy who will get good buzz in OTAs and a training camp standout. When word starts to leak out that he’s going to get quality snaps, Wake Twitter, PFF, and others will be like “We told you so.”
 
PhDeac said:
I think Roberson is going to be a Day 2 or 3 guy who will get good buzz in OTAs and a training camp standout. When word starts to leak out that he’s going to get quality snaps, Wake Twitter, PFF, and others will be like “We told you so.”
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He may get good buzz in OTAs, but he ain't gonna be a day 2 pick. Late day 3 or UDFA. Just to give a sample, he doesn't crack PFF's top 300 (though I don't think they've updated yet after the combine and pro days), he's GBN's #37 WR (they have recently updated, and he's PFN's #47 WR.
 
PhDeac said:
I think Roberson is going to be a Day 2 or 3 guy who will get good buzz in OTAs and a training camp standout. When word starts to leak out that he’s going to get quality snaps, Wake Twitter, PFF, and others will be like “We told you so.”
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Yeah, I would bet a substantial some of money Roberson is not drafted on day 2.
 
And it is not being in PFFs top 300 that makes no sense whatsoever to me for Roberson if their purpose is evaluating NFL and future NFL talent……was on their 1st team All Acc for each of the last 2 seasons and one of their highest graded WRs in the country consistently over the last 2 years. Not saying that equates necessarily to get drafted in top 3 rounds….but makes little sense to be off the radar for beyond that. What is the point of their in season grades for each game?

Oh well….hopefully Roberson uses the lack of attention as fuel for his fire and proves it on the field….and can tell all the doubters to shove it at some point. I will be pulling for him to do so. Definitely one of the best and most sure handed receivers in my memory of Wake that spans 30-40 years.
 
During the season, production matters.

Pre-draft, it's all about measurements and combine numbers.

It's like what happens on the field doesn't really matter to GM's/Coaches
 
Seeya said:
And it is not being in PFFs top 300 that makes no sense whatsoever to me for Roberson if their purpose is evaluating NFL and future NFL talent……was on their 1st team All Acc for each of the last 2 seasons and one of their highest graded WRs in the country consistently over the last 2 years. Not saying that equates necessarily to get drafted in top 3 rounds….but makes little sense to be off the radar for beyond that. What is the point of their in season grades for each game?

Oh well….hopefully Roberson uses the lack of attention as fuel for his fire and proves it on the field….and can tell all the doubters to shove it at some point. I will be pulling for him to do so. Definitely one of the best and most sure handed receivers in my memory of Wake that spans 30-40 years.
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Sounds like his pro day may have helped him. A hand held 4.43 is probably closer to a 4.5, but anything in the high 4.4s to 4.5 is a box checked. But I still think he isn't picked in the draft, and the injury definitely hurt him. I know he was selected to go to the Shrine Bowl, but I saw nothing about any performance there or if he even played that week. Injuries can definitely hamper getting drafted. VT's TE James Mitchell may have gone from a 5th round prospect to maybe not getting drafted due to his injury. But I still think Roberson at least makes a practice squad.
 
OblongPickle said:
During the season, production matters.

Pre-draft, it's all about measurements and combine numbers.

It's like what happens on the field doesn't really matter to GM's/Coaches
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I have always thought this was super weird. If a player proves on the field that they can produce vs high level competition, why pick players with less production vs the same level of competition? In the case of Roberson, he has 2 years of elite production, he is over 6' tall, 40" vert, sub 4.5 40 time, good hands. What is the knock?
 
skinnydeac said:
I have always thought this was super weird. If a player proves on the field that they can produce vs high level competition, why pick players with less production vs the same level of competition? In the case of Roberson, he has 2 years of elite production, he is over 6' tall, 40" vert, sub 4.5 40 time, good hands. What is the knock?
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It's not a knock really. Just that his measurables are good, but not "blow you away" in any one regard kind of good. He's reasonably fast for the NFL. He's reasonably tall, etc. But there are a ton of guys like that in the draft every year. NFL teams aren't prone to spend a draft pick on someone they know they could get as an UDFA and see if it works out. And by "someone" I'm not saying Roberson specifically like there's any knock on him. Again, while 6' plus receivers with good hands who run reasonably well are not necessarily a dime a dozen, he's pretty much just a commodity to NFL teams. If he were 6'6" or ran a 4.3 it would be different.
 
skinnydeac said:
I have always thought this was super weird. If a player proves on the field that they can produce vs high level competition, why pick players with less production vs the same level of competition? In the case of Roberson, he has 2 years of elite production, he is over 6' tall, 40" vert, sub 4.5 40 time, good hands. What is the knock?
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look at the all-time receptions leaders in ACC history: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/acc/leaders/rec-player-career.html

not a ton of pro success from the top 20
 
Deese is a HS football coach at Forest Hills HS near Charlotte.
 
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