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2013 US NEWS COLLEGE RANKINGS- ACC

I'm completely joking.

I know Ga Tech is very well regarded. I went to high school with the biggest nerds in the southeast and those that went into engineering looked at MIT, Stanford and Cal Tech as in their own bubble. Then I think you've got Cal, Ga Tech, Michigan, Carnegie Mellon and maybe another one or two. Going back to my original comment, only Ga Tech alums put themselves in that first bucket. The smartest dude I knew in hs actually was really interested in Harvey Mudd, so I assume they've got to have a solid program as well.
 
buckets said:
Calloway is probably twenty times harder than any GT engineering program
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GT's MBA program is actually ranked a fair bit higher than Wake's. But from what I know, graduate programs aren't much of a focus at WFU.


No clue about the undergrad, but I'm also assuming that Wake is substantially better there - GT's is basically full of engineering washouts and athletes.
 
I'm really just joking, Calloway is not very tough but the students there love to whine about its supposed difficulty. Wake's MBA program is a joke.
 
buckets said:
The smartest dude I knew in hs actually was really interested in Harvey Mudd, so I assume they've got to have a solid program as well.
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Harvey Mudd is a tremendous undergraduate school - they just don't have graduate / research arms. Most Harvey Mudd guys end up at Cal Tech / GT / MIT / ETH for post-graduate work or high end research.

I know a couple of nuclear engineers who went to Harvey Mudd for undergrad. Brilliant guys who loved the education they got and the way they went about it.
 
DeacHead said:
/shrug indeed. It's astonishing that anyone could take seriously any ranking that puts GT in the same strata as Cal Tech or MIT, let alone above one of them. Here's the fact - GT: school that I, and probably 95% of grads here on the Wake board would have little problem attending. MIT/CalTech - schools that, speaking for myself at least, wouldn't have given me a second look.

As for my engineering cred, or lack thereof, did you know that in the working world the two not only meet, but can work together? I won't go into the details, but I've spent the last 20 years working with and managing engineers. I hear the same thing from the RPI and WPI guys "we're just as good as MIT!" Sure you are, Sparky, sure you are. Out of scores of various rankings out there, I'm sure someone could find something that ranks RPI near the top. Actually, first one I hit did http://www.businessinsider.com/the-worlds-best-engineering-schools-2012-6?op=1
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Don't flatter yourself too much. Just because a person gets into Wake Forest for liberal arts doesn't mean they get into a top tier engineering school. And who is arguing that GT is equal to Cal Tech and MIT? No one on this board. After that, who do you have that is that much more regarded than Tech? Before you answer, talk to some engineering faculty, not some RPI field guys who have been working out in the field for 20 years like you. Believe it or not, things do change. You aren't sounding knowledgeable, you just sound bitter.
 
buckets said:
I'm completely joking.

I know Ga Tech is very well regarded. I went to high school with the biggest nerds in the southeast and those that went into engineering looked at MIT, Stanford and Cal Tech as in their own bubble. Then I think you've got Cal, Ga Tech, Michigan, Carnegie Mellon and maybe another one or two. Going back to my original comment, only Ga Tech alums put themselves in that first bucket. The smartest dude I knew in hs actually was really interested in Harvey Mudd, so I assume they've got to have a solid program as well.
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Yep, MIT, Stanford, Cal Tech, Michigan(!), CMU alums are all humble, only GT alums are arrogant. Have you ever talked with a Michigan alum? Or an MIT for that matter? Or been out of the southeast?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
State is mediocre academic school with a great engineering program. I've had this conversation with a couple of people from the engineering program at State, and they all seem to think similarly to yourself, that States academic reputation is unfair. Truth is, the vast majority of the top engineering programs in the nation are also at the best Universities in the nation. Stanford, Harvard, Michigan, Texas, Wisconsin, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, UCLA, Northwestern, Princeton, Penn St.

So no, I don't think Engineering programs are disregarded at all. NC State is just NC State.
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"mediocre" is ezu/uncw/app state. Maybe 2nd- but more so 3rd teir schools.

If State is so mediocre then why do people from all over come to us to teach them chem/bio/physic classes?
 
Skydog Deac said:
Don't flatter yourself too much. Just because a person gets into Wake Forest for liberal arts doesn't mean they get into a top tier engineering school. And who is arguing that GT is equal to Cal Tech and MIT? No one on this board. After that, who do you have that is that much more regarded than Tech? Before you answer, talk to some engineering faculty, not some RPI field guys who have been working out in the field for 20 years like you. Believe it or not, things do change. You aren't sounding knowledgeable, you just sound bitter.
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LOL at bolded part. I get the feeling you didn't actually read this thread before writing that. Hint: someone is arguing that GT = CalTech/MIT.

As for how I "sound", thank you for your thoughts, I value them.
 
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Skydog Deac said:
Yep, MIT, Stanford, Cal Tech, Michigan(!), CMU alums are all humble, only GT alums are arrogant. Have you ever talked with a Michigan alum? Or an MIT for that matter? Or been out of the southeast?
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You missed his point. His point is only GT alums but GT in the top tier. Not that the others don't put themselves in the top tier.
 
Whelp reading through this thread seals it, vad's a douche.

Highlights
1) keeper style correction of his name
2) telling us 95% of us would fail at what he did (ETA: actually turns out somethinng he failed at himself) (ever think some of us went to wake to go into business etc not just cuz we suck at math? Some (most?) don't. Your lack for critical thinking makes me think you woulda failed at Wake)
3) equating a liberal arts education with a waste money and something he already has from reading books
4) telling us our stronger programs aren't good (despite then admitting he has no idea wtf he talking about)

Dude needs to step away for a while. Ph nailed it- guys gone off a cliff recently. I noticed it elsewhere (mainly talking about clothes), but this is the icing on the cake.

ETA: It has just come to my attention that YOU dropped out and then have the audacity to come on here and talk like that?
 
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seawolf2010 said:
"mediocre" is ezu/uncw/app state. Maybe 2nd- but more so 3rd teir schools.

If State is so mediocre then why do people from all over come to us to teach them chem/bio/physic classes?
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Because they can't get into schools closer to home?
 
vadimivich said:
GT's MBA program is actually ranked a fair bit higher than Wake's. But from what I know, graduate programs aren't much of a focus at WFU.


No clue about the undergrad, but I'm also assuming that Wake is substantially better there - GT's is basically full of engineering washouts and athletes.
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There's not a huge difference between Tech at 32 and Wake at 44. If you're not in the top 15-20, you've just got an expensive resume and network builder.

At least Wake never had to change the name of its school because the benefactor went bankrupt.
 
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