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2024 Presidential Primaries and Election

Trump is essentially a double-incumbent who won by less than the polls said he would and gave up 40% of the vote.

Something like 18% of the Haley voters said they would not vote for Trump in the general.

Both of those are bad signs for "Republicans."
 
bym051d said:
Trump is essentially a double-incumbent who won by less than the polls said he would and gave up 40% of the vote.

Something like 18% of the Haley voters said they would not vote for Trump in the general.

Both of those are bad signs for "Republicans."
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is SC an open primary?
 
Agreed. If Biden was getting primaried like a lot of people wanted and pulling those numbers, the only narrative would be that Biden is weak and old and Democrats want someone else.

But Trump gets those numbers against relatively weak opponents and the media narrative is that Trump is strong within his party. Haley last won in SC in 2014. That’s forever ago and the GOP is very different. Plus she lost support after removing the Confederate flag.
 
The only people that show up for a primary are already engaged voters, a significant amount of Haley voters will return to Trump. However, a certain percentage will not be voting for trump and have made it clear. Also it appears the trend has held from Iowa, NH, and now SC around 40% do not want Trump. If just 10% of those in the general don’t vote trump, highly likely, he’s got huge problems.
 
really hope we don't get some dope No Labels third party candidate. Allegedly Manchin said no and now I've seen some rumors of Haley.
 
I have hopes the Republican party will get rid of MAGA, but it won't be in 2028.
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
The only people that show up for a primary are already engaged voters, a significant amount of Haley voters will return to Trump. However, a certain percentage will not be voting for trump and have made it clear. Also it appears the trend has held from Iowa, NH, and now SC around 40% do not want Trump. If just 10% of those in the general don’t vote trump, highly likely, he’s got huge problems.
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Why would you believe those pubs wouldn’t vote for trump in the general? The same dudes bantered about the same bullshit in 2020 and 2016 in the country club locker room before the privacy of the voting booth gave them cover to be cowards.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
Why would you believe those pubs wouldn’t vote for trump in the general? The same dudes bantered about the same bullshit in 2020 and 2016 in the country club locker room before the privacy of the voting booth gave them cover to be cowards.
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Well there's been some pretty substantial things happen involving Donald Trump since November 2020 that may have changed some of those people's minds. Starting with the one two months later.

Not saying all of them are changed, or even a majority. But like he said, if 10% of those people are now not willing to vote Trump that's an issue for him
 
Deacfreak07 said:
Why would you believe those pubs wouldn’t vote for trump in the general? The same dudes bantered about the same bullshit in 2020 and 2016 in the country club locker room before the privacy of the voting booth gave them cover to be cowards.
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It is quite amusing to see the MAGA hoards not sticking their chests out and telegraphing their love for their fearless leader as they did in '16 & '20. Even here in Aiken which is Pub heaven.
Old, retired shits who collectively feel the Country is going down the toilet and Heir Trump is the answer. Shut down one guy on the Course with a "we don't do politics on the GC" Saturday morning but most are quiet about it. Assholes politically, the whole lot.
 
bym051d said:
I have hopes the Republican party will get rid of MAGA, but it won't be in 2028.
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Agreed. But what if she’s the leading never Trump option running against a big field of MAGA wannabe Trumps? She could win with 30-40%.
 
I think Haley could have legitimately won SC and it wouldn't have mattered. Trump is going to be the nominee absent some crazy event either legally or to his health.

With that said, I think it's meaningful that Haley got 40% of the vote in the sense that it shows Trump's weakness within his own party. The question is if those Republicans that vote against Trump in primaries are willing to suck it up and vote Trump a third time in the general election or not.
 
BarcaDeac said:
DeSantis licking his pudding fingers
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Like Haley, DeSantis is done as a future presidential candidate, imo. If he was going to win it needed to be this year - he seemingly had everything going his way when he first declared. And the more people saw of him the less they liked him, and his campaign imploded. He may still be viable in Florida, although I think even there his popularity has taken a definite hit, but nationally he's done for. Haley won't win because she's a member of a party that believes only white males should be presidential candidates, and she is neither.
 
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