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Banning Critical Race Theory

Lol -- what an absolute load of utter shit. Par for the course. Dude will defend absolutely everything the extremists do -- I think we all know what that means.
 
Liquid Karma said:
You're wasting too much energy worrying about a bill that will clearly not pass any measure of judicial scrutiny. There are much bigger windmills to tilt at.
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We're tilting at all of them here because we can. If you can't tell, this is part of a much larger pattern of racist whitewashing of history, book banning, and protect white victims from being made uncomfortable resulting from a completely fabricated issue. This is yet another example.

The tilting at windmills is what racists like Junebug are doing wrt to CRT.
 
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Liquid Karma said:
You're wasting too much energy worrying about a bill that will clearly not pass any measure of judicial scrutiny. There are much bigger windmills to tilt at.
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There were lots of ridiculous sounding abortion laws that were struck down, until eventually one wasn't, and it might undo protections everywhere in the country.
 
"Great awakening"-is junebug QAnon now? I also did not know chanting to Aztec gods is "liberal ideology"-that's a new one.
 
No offense to Biff, but the whole “this bill is crazy it will never pass” nothingburger mindset is naive at this point. It’s proven now that Republican state legislatures are testing the extremes of conservative jurisprudence with these “ridiculous” bills, with the intention of passing whatever they can. So maybe you don’t live in Oklahoma, but Oklahoma is going to pass the most extreme bill their state Supreme Court will allow, and that’s going to provide precedent and encouragement for other state legislatures.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
No offense to Biff, but the whole “this bill is crazy it will never pass” nothingburger mindset is naive at this point. It’s proven now that Republican state legislatures are testing the extremes of conservative jurisprudence with these “ridiculous” bills, with the intention of passing whatever they can. So maybe you don’t live in Oklahoma, but Oklahoma is going to pass the most extreme bill their state Supreme Court will allow, and that’s going to provide precedent and encouragement for other state legislatures.
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Yeah, I usually try not to freak out over any individual ruling, but this has been a systematic attack for decades. All of these Republican nothing-burgers add up to one giant shit sandwich.
 
Demonwolverine said:
Yeah, I usually try not to freak out over any individual ruling, but this has been a systematic attack for decades. All of these Republican nothing-burgers add up to one giant shit sandwich.
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And lets be fair. No one is actually "freaking out." Some one posted an article about a new ridiculous bill in Oklahoma and a few people responded with "The GOP is fucking nutz," and "this is how the CRT craze started so this better not be the next thing..." and a few other people said "Stop freaking out this bill is going no where."
 
birdman said:
And lets be fair. No one is actually "freaking out." Some one posted an article about a new ridiculous bill in Oklahoma and a few people responded with "The GOP is fucking nutz," and "this is how the CRT craze started so this better not be the next thing..." and a few other people said "Stop freaking out this bill is going no where."
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I posted the article, and will no doubt post more in the future as more bills like this are proposed around the country. Even if they don't pass they are very revealing as to what Republicans in general think of teachers and the whole educational process - kids should not be taught anything that conflicts with the parent's beliefs. We have book bannings spreading around the country and some of these bills are becoming law, yet conservatives on here keep saying that it's all a big nothingburger and we should just ignore it. I'm sure they do - it's impossible to defend most of these bills in any plausible way, so it's better to downplay it and just say it doesn't matter becuase they'll never go anywhere. I'm sure that's a real comfort to educators and others who live in these states and wonder what the hell is coming down the road next. And meanwhile more books get banned and more extreme bills keep getting proposed and more teachers keep leaving the system. But no worries, none of these bills will pass, and even if they do we're sure the courts we're packing with right-wingers will strike them down. No worries, folks, just calm down!
 
[h=1]It’s time to stop the insanity that is killing public education[/h]
https://baptistnews.com/article/its-time-to-stop-the-insanity-that-is-killing-public-education/

Like many of you, I care passionately about public education as a stabilizing, equalizing force for good in society. In a world filled with so much inequity — even though our schools may not always be as equal as they could be — public education remains perhaps the greatest single means of giving everyone a bootstrap to pull up. It is foundational to our society and our democracy.
So it is disgusting, dismaying and disheartening to see the continued attack on public education from conservative evangelical Christians and people who pretend to be evangelical Christians but couldn’t find John 3:16 in the Bible if you asked them. It is time to stop being shocked at this behavior and stand up against it.
This has been going on for 60 years, and it seems to get worse with every passing year. We now have reached a cringeworthy crescendo in which the very future of public education hangs precariously in the balance. This is not an exaggeration.
Why? Because a very loud minority of parents wants to conform entire school systems to their narrow ways of seeing the world. In the 1950s, this sprouted from racism that rallied parents to oppose integration of public schools. One of the big differences then was that racist parents formed private schools through their churches to protect their precious white children from having to sit in a classroom or play on a sports team with darker-skinned children. Their response to their racist impulses was to remove themselves.

“A very loud minority of parents wants to conform entire school systems to their narrow ways of seeing the world.”

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But now, the plan has broadened. Parents who want their kids educated in a world that hasn’t existed since Little House on the Prairie are desperate to divert taxpayer funding from public schools to support their sectarian private schools. They are not willing to pay the price for being isolationists. And having failed at this unconstitutional effort, they now are trying to take over entire school boards and bend the will of public education to their whims.

They are like parents who micromanage and berate the coaches on Little League teams because they know better than the coaches how the game should be played — always seeking advantage for their kid, not the team. They are the parents who insist their kid must always play first base or pitcher and blame the coach when their kid drops the ball.
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The examples of the insanity in this debate today are numerous — including book banning, the made-up hullaballoo about Critical Race Theory, and the bogus fears about transgender athletes — but for today, look no further than my home state of Oklahoma where Republican State Sen. Rob Standridge has introduced a bill “that would allow people to sue teachers if they offer an opposing view to the religious beliefs held by students,” according to MSN News and multiple other news outlets.
Standridge’s “Students’ Religious Belief Protection Act” would allow any parent to demand the removal of any book “with perceived anti-religious content from school,” the news service reported. “Subjects like LGBTQ issues, evolution, the big bang theory and even birth control could be off the table.”
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No surprise that just a month before, Standridge introduced a bill to ban books from public school libraries. And if you think his cockamamie bill to fine teachers couldn’t be duplicated in your local district, just look at how the book-banning effort is spreading like wildfire. In Texas, where I now live, a state legislator has produced a list of 850 books — 850! — that he wants banned from public school libraries, while our governor believes our school libraries contain “pornography.”

This is insanity.
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GOP is burying itself. Demographics are not in their favor over the long haul. Dustbin awaits
 
WakeBored said:
I most certainly did not say libs didn't need to worry about all these CRT laws. They should worry; these laws threaten to disrupt the hegemonic liberal control over pre-college education that has lead to things like teachers forcing students to "confess their privilege," "share their pronouns," participate in chants to Aztec gods, and other bullshit that goes on in our public schools. They are the product of the COVID-induced remote-learning great awakening where parents saw what their children were actually learning at school and were appalled by the indoctrination of liberal ideology. Silver linings, I guess.

If teachers aren't teaching things like the history of slavery, for example, it's because they are listening to people like you who are overstating the effect of these laws in an effort to undermine them. I've said it before and I'll say it again--that's not what these laws prohibit. At most, these are growing pains as schools adapt to the new sheriff in town. Schools need to do a better job of training their teachers on how to comply with them, which will come in time, as it does with all legislative efforts to control curriculum.

As for this Oklahoma clown who is serving red meat to his base, you can wring your hands over him if you want. His bill will never become a law--he probably doesn't want it to because teachers are much more likely to actually offend non-Christians than Christians--and, even if it did, it would be struck down in a skinny minute as a facial violation of the First Amendment.
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You should be incredibly embarrassed that you typed this out. Fox News, boomer brain shit.
 
Imagine thinking there’s a “new sheriff” in states where Republicans have been running public education for generations.

Imagine being against big government and thinking teachers need a “new sheriff” looking over their shoulder.
 
Imagine thinking you know better what your kids need to learn than certified and trained teachers
 
The GOP is like Jefferson Starship when they did “we built this city”. Some dipshits liked it but everyone who knew better was all like WTF?
 
BarcaDeac said:
Imagine thinking you know better what your kids need to learn than certified and trained teachers
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I’m not sure “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach” is the line your side wants to run on right now.
 
WakeBored said:
I’m not sure “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach” is the line your side wants to run on right now.
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But "parents should tell teachers what to teach" and treat them like shit is perfectly fine.
 
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