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BBall Recruiting Thread 2k19 - Charles Coleman de-commits to Wake. :(

PhDeac said:
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha???
 
Just went to see W-S Dash today 8/3/19----they drew 6,233 fans today , many more than the Manning Deacs-----sad
 
Dutch Deacon 65 said:
How high will he go in the mock draft is all that matters.
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I assume this reference is in regards to Hoard. Recruiting Hoard was not the problem. He was a fine player for a freshman and will be missed.

He will likely make a nice living playing basketball and made the correct choice to continue his development elsewhere.

The real disaster will be when the rest of our competent players leave or run out of eligibility.

They are not being replaced by division 1 players.
 
knowell said:
I assume this reference is in regards to Hoard. Recruiting Hoard was not the problem. He was a fine player for a freshman and will be missed.

He will likely make a nice living playing basketball and made the correct choice to continue his development elsewhere.

The real disaster will be when the rest of our competent players leave or run out of eligibility.

They are not being replaced by division 1 players.
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Unfortunately, I'm not even sure they're being replaced by *Division Three* players.
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knowell brings up a good point. These 11 win seasons have come with a few players who were ACC caliber starters. We are recruiting at a lower level now, the lowest we’ve ever recruited.
 
knowell said:
I assume this reference is in regards to Hoard. Recruiting Hoard was not the problem. He was a fine player for a freshman and will be missed.

He will likely make a nice living playing basketball and made the correct choice to continue his development elsewhere.

The real disaster will be when the rest of our competent players leave or run out of eligibility.

They are not being replaced by division 1 players.
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I'm being sarcastic. For Wake One and Dones are a disaster. And, for me, they are one of a few reasons why I don't buy season tickets anymore.
 
PhDeac said:
knowell brings up a good point. These 11 win seasons have come with a few players who were ACC caliber starters. We are recruiting at a lower level now, the lowest we’ve ever recruited.
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Yeah, this season’s roster isn’t horrible... But next year and the year after will be.

I know you were in favor of firing Manning after 17-18. I was not. You were probably right. But by not firing him after 18-19, the hole is even deeper.

I guess I understand Manning trying to lock up ‘20 players ASAP... It’ll only get tougher if/when we suck again this year and he’s (hopefully) a dead man walking.

Shitshow.
 
Dutch Deacon 65 said:
I'm being sarcastic. For Wake One and Dones are a disaster. And, for me, they are one of a few reasons why I don't buy season tickets anymore.
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I can get your personal feelings about one-and-dones, but they are not a disaster for Wake.

Depending on one-and-dones probably is a disaster for Wake, but the occasional one-and-done supplemented by 2-4 year players are just fine and possibly ideal. Chris Paul was not bad for Wake. Not being ready for his departure was.

Had Tim Duncan stayed 1-2 years, he would not have hurt Wake Forest basketball. He would still have been a net positive.

Hoard was a net positive but lipstick and pigs and such.
 
knowell said:
Hoard was a net positive but lipstick and pigs and such.
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Hoard was a net neutral for Wake at best. Players like CP3 or JC leaving early are actually great for a program, they boosted the program while here and raise the profile while lighting it up in the NBA. But, No body gives a fuck about one and dones that go undrafted and get a two-deal. It’s not like that gives us any kind of recruiting advantage in years to come and he didn’t help with our season last year either. He was probably a net negative as his commitment may have contributed to the Manning extension.
 
birdman said:
He was probably a net negative as his commitment may have contributed to the Manning extension.
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I did not think of it that way. It is hard to account for the gross stupidity of the athletic department.

I was really just commenting on his play on the court and the fact that we will be replacing him with zero-star guys.

I saw Manning at my local Y asking a couple of guys if they still had eligibility left. Does RJ still play?
 
Dutch Deacon 65 said:
I'm being sarcastic. For Wake One and Dones are a disaster. And, for me, they are one of a few reasons why I don't buy season tickets anymore.
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As far as I am aware we have only had 1 one and done player (leaving for the NBA) in the history of Wake Forest basketball.
 
DeacsATS said:
Yeah, this season’s roster isn’t horrible... But next year and the year after will be.
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Next year, we'll theoretically have seniors Chaundee and Sarr, juniors Wright and Mucius, and sophomore Massoud. Those are five nice pieces, but the problem is twofold. First, there seems to be absolutely no talent beyond those five. Second, it has yet to be seen that any of those five can be more than complementary role players.
 
WFUWaldo said:
Next year, we'll theoretically have seniors Chaundee and Sarr, juniors Wright and Mucius, and sophomore Massoud. Those are five nice pieces, but the problem is twofold. First, there seems to be absolutely no talent beyond those five. Second, it has yet to be seen that any of those five can be more than complementary role players.
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Third, this coaching staff has a continuing history of having guys leave, and only 1 was for the right reason.
 
WFUWaldo said:
Next year, we'll theoretically have seniors Chaundee and Sarr, juniors Wright and Mucius, and sophomore Massoud. Those are five nice pieces, but the problem is twofold. First, there seems to be absolutely no talent beyond those five. Second, it has yet to be seen that any of those five can be more than complementary role players.
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That feels worse than this year w/ Childress & White. Unless Neath turns out to be a lot better than his ranking.
 
WFUWaldo said:
Next year, we'll theoretically have seniors Chaundee and Sarr, juniors Wright and Mucius, and sophomore Massoud. Those are five nice pieces, but the problem is twofold. First, there seems to be absolutely no talent beyond those five. Second, it has yet to be seen that any of those five can be more than complementary role players.
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Hopefully the problem is only twofold.
 
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