Who gives a fuck? In his last 10 playoff games, he is 8-2 and has thrown 17 TDs and 5 interceptions. He steps up his game in the playoffs.
End of thread. He's money when it counts.
Who gives a fuck? In his last 10 playoff games, he is 8-2 and has thrown 17 TDs and 5 interceptions. He steps up his game in the playoffs.
Player A: 220.0 yds/game, 56.9 compl %, 4.1 TD%, 3.1 int%,
Player B: 231.0 yds/game, 58.5 compl %, 4.6 TD%, 3.4 int%
Player C: 238.5 yds/game, 63.3 compl %, 5.0 TD%, 2.8 int%
Player D: 254.7 yds/game, 63.4 compl %, 5.5 TD%, 2.0 int%
Player E: 199.6 yds/game, 61.5 compl %, 3.5 TD%, 3.0 int%
Player F: 211.2 yds/game, 63.2 compl %, 5.1 TD%, 2.6 int%
Rank these QBs: All have multiple SB rings. Career numbers above.
You can't compare QBs from the 50s-80s to those of today. The game is dramatically different.
It's like comparing HR totals of the 1910s to the 1950s 0r 2010s.
I think you can compare Eli to Roethlisberger. Better than average QB who is rated highly because of 2 Super Bowl wins. I think playing in New York contributes more to his legacy than his last name.
In Giants 2 Super Bowl runs, Eli had 15 TDs and 2 Ints.
Jose Offerman had .400 BA/.491 OBP in baseball playoffs. Carlos Delgado has a .757 Slg %.
Player A: 220.0 yds/game, 56.9 compl %, 4.1 TD%, 3.1 int%,
Player B: 231.0 yds/game, 58.5 compl %, 4.6 TD%, 3.4 int%
Player C: 238.5 yds/game, 63.3 compl %, 5.0 TD%, 2.8 int%
Player D: 254.7 yds/game, 63.4 compl %, 5.5 TD%, 2.0 int%
Player E: 199.6 yds/game, 61.5 compl %, 3.5 TD%, 3.0 int%
Player F: 211.2 yds/game, 63.2 compl %, 5.1 TD%, 2.6 int%
Rank these QBs: All have multiple SB rings. Career numbers above.
Dunno whose numbers these are, but there is also a difference in eras. I think the 2 time + SB QBs are: Starr, Griese, Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana, Plunkett, Aikman, Elway, Brady, Rapistberger and Eli. I'd rate them as follows: Montana, Brady, Elway, Aikman, Starr, Staubach, Bradshaw, Manning, Rapistberger, Griese and Plunkett. That Plunkett has 2 rings, and Dilfer, Rypien and Hostetler each have 1 proves QBs usually get too much credit for wins and too much blame in losses.
Winning Super Bowls show you were on a really good team.
If anything, being named "Smith" might've helped Eli more. It's not like Archie was some HOF QB. Two Pro Bowls is the high watermark for he who would beget Eli.
True, but Archie was a heck of a QB. Put him in Pittsburgh and that inbred cajun Bradshaw on the 70s Saints, and Papa Manning prolly has 4 rings while Bradshaw is stirring a roux for gumbo somewhere in Louisiana.
Look, you are wrong. Your argument is so weak you have to go to another sport to support it. Eli is probably one of the worst QBs to have 2 Super Bowl rings. I will give you that.
Well, not sure about shots at Bradshaw, but Manning was certainly held in esteem by his contemporaries. But I took the OP as implying that Eli's fame and favor was due to his family name. And in that case, as career numbers bear (just numbers, not reputation), Archie really wasn't tearing up the record books.
Based just on those number, I'd go with this. Of course teammates great influence the numbers above but...Player A: 220.0 yds/game, 56.9 compl %, 4.1 TD%, 3.1 int%,
Player B: 231.0 yds/game, 58.5 compl %, 4.6 TD%, 3.4 int%
Player C: 238.5 yds/game, 63.3 compl %, 5.0 TD%, 2.8 int%
Player D: 254.7 yds/game, 63.4 compl %, 5.5 TD%, 2.0 int%
Player E: 199.6 yds/game, 61.5 compl %, 3.5 TD%, 3.0 int%
Player F: 211.2 yds/game, 63.2 compl %, 5.1 TD%, 2.6 int%
Rank these QBs: All have multiple SB rings. Career numbers above.
My argument is not weak.
I notice you don't talk about his other playoff games. 113, 161, 169 yards with 6 Ints, 2 Tds.
My bad only his good stuff counts and you have excuses for him in those games.
My argument is not weak.
I notice you don't talk about his other playoff games. 113, 161, 169 yards with 6 Ints, 2 Tds.
My bad only his good stuff counts and you have excuses for him in those games.