ImTheCaptain
I disagree with you
Definitely seeking dong. No doubt.
Anyone a Jesuit here?
Mortal sin. One way ticket to hell.
Oh yea, I’ve seen you in Penn Station near the ticket booth. I always drop a few bucks in your can and remind you to get to get to one of the many shelters for a meal and some help. There is a better way.
You said mendicants. Beggar
Sarcasm. Sorry.
Self interest - To seek a desirable, safe environment to raise your family vs taking a vow of poverty?
There are many ministries within an active parish. Parish outreach, food and meals, youth service ministry, bereavement, depression counseling, alcohol and drugs, adopt a family, home visits, respit services.
Parish outreach - parishioners reach out to low income communities. Food, clothes, recreation, tutoring, donations, housing.
Admit what?
For sailor and lectro, how many Muslims do you know? How many have you talked to about politics, their beliefs, and how those interact?
I am sure I have interacted much more often than you have
For sailor and lectro, how many Muslims do you know? How many have you talked to about politics, their beliefs, and how those interact?
As I have noted before, I know, and have known, quite a few Muslims. Just to underscore the point, right before I came home, the last person I had a conversation with of any length or seriousness was a Muslim. On my way home, I stopped in a business, owned and operated by Muslims, and made several purchases.
A great deal of the problems connected with Islam and the integration of Muslims into western society were first raised to me by Muslims, who, by the way, unlike the leftys on these boards, don't seem to have any difficulties thinking critically about their faith and its problems or talking about them, even with non-Muslims such as me.
The presumption behind your question, Thunderbolt, is that being critical of Islam must be based on ignorance of Islam. That presumption is simply wrong. The real problem is not with recognizing some of the problems connected with Islam and with the difficulties of co-existence between Muslim and western communities but with the refusal to talk honestly about them, indeed, the refusal to talk about them at all, especially in order to sacrifice on the altar of identity politics, a misbegotten and dangerous idea if there ever was one.
Let's think about this...whom should we consider rational and intelligent about Islam? On one hand we have Thunderbolt, a pastor and a person who has done many outreaches to people with one major purpose- to help them or sailor's overt bigotry and lectro...
Hmmmm...this is tough...almost as tough as deciding whether to chug a glass of hemlock or a glass of milk...
Let's think about this...whom should we consider rational and intelligent about Islam? On one hand we have Thunderbolt, a pastor and a person who has done many outreaches to people with one major purpose- to help them or sailor's overt bigotry and lectro...
Hmmmm...this is tough...almost as tough as deciding whether to chug a glass of hemlock or a glass of milk...