OblongPickle
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Am I wrong, or is the counter-argument to this whole thing a description of the number of lives saved from masking/vaxxing? Which you can't prove, because proving a negative (proving that A caused B not to happen) is impossible?
Maybe I'm just caught up in all the crazy, but it seems to me like there's no way to fully prove the idiocy of the statements here without being able to "prove" how many lives were saved/cases mitigated/etc from masks/vaccines, and that's the only thing that will make anti-vaxxers think about the issue...some kind of number that "proves" the efficacy of the vax...
Maybe I'm wrong and haven't dove too far into this whole thing, but there's no way to prove who was saved from getting Covid by wearing a mask/being in a mask-mandated environment or from getting the vax and being around only vaxxed people....it's either "they were lucky not to get it" or "the vaxx prevented it", neither of which you can prove over the other.
I don't recall anyone ever saying that the vaccine, or any vaccine, was 10000% effective and will completely wipe all possibility away of you getting a disease....just that it's a tool to lessen the likelihood of getting it or dying from it.....the problem is some people are taking "COULD prevent/keep you from getting" as "WILL prevent/keep you from getting", so that anyone that gets the vax and gets the virus, it automatically means the whole thing is a lie and it's all some big house of cards of lies or something.....idk....I obviously don't read enough, and especially of the "real" websites that don't hide things or "not report" it (for whatever reason), like those "in the know" read.
It's amazing though the extreme ability that such small things can get revealed about political candidates, celebrities, and large companies, or private individuals, yet the entire world is being fooled by this massive conspiracy...that no one, anyone, across the globe, up or down the line of hierarchy in the system has told a friend, or a partner, or been fired and got pissed and blurted something out. Everything has been buttoned up and no whistleblowers anywhere. The largest conspiracy known to man.
The worst part about all of this is it sometimes makes me feel like I'M the crazy one!....but whatever
I just hate that we are all subject to such a mass infiltration of our hearts and minds
Maybe I'm just caught up in all the crazy, but it seems to me like there's no way to fully prove the idiocy of the statements here without being able to "prove" how many lives were saved/cases mitigated/etc from masks/vaccines, and that's the only thing that will make anti-vaxxers think about the issue...some kind of number that "proves" the efficacy of the vax...
Maybe I'm wrong and haven't dove too far into this whole thing, but there's no way to prove who was saved from getting Covid by wearing a mask/being in a mask-mandated environment or from getting the vax and being around only vaxxed people....it's either "they were lucky not to get it" or "the vaxx prevented it", neither of which you can prove over the other.
I don't recall anyone ever saying that the vaccine, or any vaccine, was 10000% effective and will completely wipe all possibility away of you getting a disease....just that it's a tool to lessen the likelihood of getting it or dying from it.....the problem is some people are taking "COULD prevent/keep you from getting" as "WILL prevent/keep you from getting", so that anyone that gets the vax and gets the virus, it automatically means the whole thing is a lie and it's all some big house of cards of lies or something.....idk....I obviously don't read enough, and especially of the "real" websites that don't hide things or "not report" it (for whatever reason), like those "in the know" read.
It's amazing though the extreme ability that such small things can get revealed about political candidates, celebrities, and large companies, or private individuals, yet the entire world is being fooled by this massive conspiracy...that no one, anyone, across the globe, up or down the line of hierarchy in the system has told a friend, or a partner, or been fired and got pissed and blurted something out. Everything has been buttoned up and no whistleblowers anywhere. The largest conspiracy known to man.
The worst part about all of this is it sometimes makes me feel like I'M the crazy one!....but whatever
I just hate that we are all subject to such a mass infiltration of our hearts and minds