MichDeac25
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Is this post serious? I feel like I'm having a stroke.
1.) Yes, I read your "above-listed rankings," which are, unsurprisingly, unsourced, and incorrect on a micro level. Almost nobody who ranked Collins ranked him that low.
2.) Recruiting rankings are not based entirely on readiness to contribute. I attribute the difference in rankings between Collins, who was expected to be ready early in his freshman season, and Moore, who was not expected to be ready early in his freshman season, to things like size and potential, both of which lend a strong, strong edge to Moore.
3.) Yes, if his current production continues, he will have outperformed his ranking. The same goes for Crawford! Small sample sizes are fun.
3.) Again, he has played thirty-five (35) minutes against generally poor competition. He has had issues turning the ball over. We also have mixed reports (in some cases, horrendous reports) on his defense, and he's accumulated 5 fouls in 35 minutes. We also have no idea how his high-energy play so far would translate to a prolonged 30-35 minute appearance. I like Collins a lot-- really, I do-- but let's pump the brakes a bit before anointing him the savior of the program. He has put up some gaudy point and rebound numbers. That's it, so far.
4.) Remember Aaron Rountree? He went through a 4 game, 76 minute stretch early in his freshman season where he averaged (per 35 minutes, so that we can compare directly with Collins) 14.3 points (on 75% shooting!), 8.3 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 6.0 blocks, 3.7 steals, 4.1 fouls, and just 1.8 turnovers. I would argue that he was more productive in that four game stretch, especially on the defensive end of the floor, than Collins has been so far. Am I cherry picking? Sure! Small sample sizes sure are fun, though!
5.) okay so this is weird
The rankings I listed are taken straight from 247 sports composite numbers. At least you concede that recruiting rankings are sometimes based on things like size, even if the player isn't producing at that level to justify the ranking in high school. (Keep this in mind for B-Chill.) However, at 6'9-6'10, Collins has more than enough size to be a potent PF. I was concerned that he was actually 6'7 playing a PF position and that was why his rankings were lower. However, that wasn't the case. He was the state's 4A player of the year and still was never ranked within the top 15 of Florida players by 247 or ESPN. Doral Moore does indeed have great size and athletic ability, which equals potential. I think he'll be great. But I imagine in time, there are going to be a lot of other players ranked ahead of John Collins that won't have produced on his level.
If you're going to compare Aaron Rountree's ability to John Collins' ability, that tells me you don't really know basketball, which is probably why you rely so heavily on recruiting rankings to tell you what players should perform. Rountree never passed the eye test for someone that was going to be a great college player.
Recruiting rankings are okay, but they're not infallible.