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NFL Super Bowl Week !

I think it's more likely the balls were always underinflated, weren't checked with a gauge and/or were rubber stamped by the head ref bc it doesn't matter and who gives a fuck?

I hope the nfl fucks this whole thing up (again) and Goodell gets hammered for it.
 
wsc8521s said:
Just curious, what is the pro-Patriot explanation for why the Colts' footballs were properly inflated, and the Pats weren't?
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It'll be interesting to see what information the nfl publishes but here's a possible scenario. The Colts pumped their footballs to 14.5, over the max PSI level of 13.5. The Pats pumped their footballs to the lowest possible PSI level of 12.5. If all footballs lose 2PSI due to the temp/climate/atmospheric pressure then the Pats are out of the legal range while the Colts are still in it.

Or the ref never actually measured the balls in the first place...
 
bth9673 said:
I think it's more likely the balls were always underinflated, weren't checked with a gauge and/or were rubber stamped by the head ref bc it doesn't matter and who gives a fuck?

I hope the nfl fucks this whole thing up (again) and Goodell gets hammered for it.
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It really is a win-win for most of America. Either Goodell ends up playing the fool (again) or the Pats are revealed as cheating deadbeats (again.)
 
wsc8521s said:
Just curious, what is the pro-Patriot explanation for why the Colts' footballs were properly inflated, and the Pats weren't?
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Do we know what PSI the Colts' footballs started at? Do we know what PSI the Colts' footballs ended at? Do we know how the Colts prepare their footballs?
 
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Ayo said:
Do we know what PSI the Colts' footballs started at? Do we know what PSI the Colts' footballs ended at? Do we know how the Colts prepare their footballs?
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Between 12.5 and 13.5 considering the pressure was checked before the game and was within the limits. At half they were measured to still be within the limits. Presumable after the game as well but not sure if that was reported. They clearly weren't "prepared" the same way as the Pats.
 
Starting at room temperature, the balls would have dropped just less than 1 psi due to the temperature change outside (assuming it reached equilibrium). For sake of argument, let's say it did. The Colts balls still would have been within range if they were initially inflated to 13.5 psi and dropped the 1 psi. That leaves only 2 possible explanations for the Pats balls dropping that extra 1+ psi. 1) The air inside the footballs was heated to 90+ degrees. That is the required temperature for the balls to drop another psi. I find it hard to believe enough friction could be generated to produce enough heat to increase the temperature of the air inside the balls by that much. Seems more plausible that it was inflated with hot air. 2) They manually deflated the balls. Either way the Pats have been cheating.
 
SCDeac13 said:
Between 12.5 and 13.5 considering the pressure was checked before the game and was within the limits. At half they were measured to still be within the limits. Presumable after the game as well but not sure if that was reported. They clearly weren't "prepared" the same way as the Pats.
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Right. Mortensen reported that the Colts' footballs at inspection before the game were within regulation and remained within regulation during the game. That's not very specific. The Colts' footballs at inspection could have been closer to the higher end of the range (closer to 13.5 PSI) and then dropped a little during the game due to temperature/weather and still remained above the 12.5 minimum. Mike Florio reported that 10 of the Patriots' footballs were closer to 1 PSI under the 12.5 minimum than 2 PSI, as previously reported. So the Patriots' footballs could have started at the 12.5 minimum during inspection and then lost the reported ~1 PSI during the game due to temperature/weather.
 
SCDeac13 said:
Starting at room temperature, the balls would have dropped just less than 1 psi due to the temperature change outside (assuming it reached equilibrium). For sake of argument, let's say it did. The Colts balls still would have been within range if they were initially inflated to 13.5 psi and dropped the 1 psi. That leaves only 2 possible explanations for the Pats balls dropping that extra 1+ psi. 1) The air inside the footballs was heated to 90+ degrees. That is the required temperature for the balls to drop another psi. I find it hard to believe enough friction could be generated to produce enough heat to increase the temperature of the air inside the balls by that much. Seems more plausible that it was inflated with hot air. 2) They manually deflated the balls. Either way the Pats have been cheating.
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The footballs were closer to 1 PSI under than 2, according to Florio.

But what has the NFL really found? As one league source has explained it to PFT, the football intercepted by Colts linebacker D’Qwell Jackson was roughly two pounds under the 12.5 PSI minimum. The other 10 balls that reportedly were two pounds under may have been, as the source explained it, closer to one pound below 12.5 PSI.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/25/nfl-bears-plenty-of-blame-for-deflategate/
 
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It's hilarious that this is still a topic of discussion
 
Pats gonna get blasted and blame it all on the NFL for distracting them, the narrative writes ITSELF
 
SCDeac13 said:
Starting at room temperature, the balls would have dropped just less than 1 psi due to the temperature change outside (assuming it reached equilibrium). For sake of argument, let's say it did. The Colts balls still would have been within range if they were initially inflated to 13.5 psi and dropped the 1 psi. That leaves only 2 possible explanations for the Pats balls dropping that extra 1+ psi. 1) The air inside the footballs was heated to 90+ degrees. That is the required temperature for the balls to drop another psi. I find it hard to believe enough friction could be generated to produce enough heat to increase the temperature of the air inside the balls by that much. Seems more plausible that it was inflated with hot air. 2) They manually deflated the balls. Either way the Pats have been cheating.
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Or there was something inherently different in the lot of balls that both teams had. Maybe they were manufactured in different places, different temperatures, using slightly different materials, etc.

Not saying the pats didn't purposely remove air but there are a ton of reasons to explain the differences. Bottom line is that the nfl should have never pursued such a minor crime if there's a reasonable explanation for the variance.
 
Newenglanddeac said:
Or there was something inherently different in the lot of balls that both teams had. Maybe they were manufactured in different places, different temperatures, using slightly different materials, etc.

Not saying the pats didn't purposely remove air but there are a ton of reasons to explain the differences. Bottom line is that the nfl should have never pursued such a minor crime if there's a reasonable explanation for the variance.
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Deflect and Deny !
 
Newenglanddeac said:
Or there was something inherently different in the lot of balls that both teams had. Maybe they were manufactured in different places, different temperatures, using slightly different materials, etc.

Not saying the pats didn't purposely remove air but there are a ton of reasons to explain the differences. Bottom line is that the nfl should have never pursued such a minor crime if there's a reasonable explanation for the variance.
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Regardless of the materials, it couldn't have dropped more than 1 psi. That would violate the gas laws. The only thing the different materials could impact would be how quickly the air inside the balls reached an equilibrium with the air outside. So it could have different balls deflating by different amounts under 1 psi. But no more than 1 psi.
 
Whatever came of that rumor that Baltimore tipped off Indy to the deflated balls? #Confirmed or #Debunked? Because could Pats' fans really make the "Circumstances!" argument with a straight face, if balls were allegedly/probably deflated two weeks in a row? (Well of course they could, Bob, they're from New England, and awful)
 
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