TheTwinAndreBen
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I am a completely independent voter.
I havent seen anything that approaches a viable GOP candidate yet.
I havent seen anything that approaches a viable GOP candidate yet.
2012 will be the return of "It's the economy stupid!"
I am a completely independent voter.
I havent seen anything that approaches a viable GOP candidate yet.
Since we're talking anti this and that...
Dems are anti-Christian/religion, anti-gun rights, anti-business, anti-deficit reduction, anti-Israel, anti-military, anti-pro life...
Let's see...conservatives hate blacks, old people, hispanics, gay people, immigrants, the middle class...Holy Shit! Those are such original ideas. How did the left never trot out those before.
2012 will be the return of "It's the economy stupid!"
I thought the GOP cared about responsibility. Are they responsible for their votes or not?
The GOP wouldn't even take money from gay millionaires.
IThank God the tea party steered the consrvative movement squarely toward fiscal issues and away from those fringe issues that most mainstream people don't give a shit about
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This election will boil down to whether or not Obama can get the same people who would not have otherwise voted at all but who came out and voted for him previously to come out and vote for him again. They went out to vote because of the hope and change all that garbage, and really nothing else. Now, after seeing minimal hope and detrimental change, will they turn out in droves again to support him, or will they return to their usual apathy and not vote at all? If they turn out again, he wins. If they stay home as per usual, he loses.
Does not influence the end result of who wins. People vote for top of ticket.
Rightfully so. For going on 2 years now we've been hearing about the inevitable economic turnaround and how Obama will ride it to easy reelection.
It hasn't happened yet, and I'm beginning to wonder if it will in time.
The unemployment number is the biggest dagger right now. If that number stays in the 9's for another year, and the Republicans can focus on that issue and not stupid ass social boogeymen, then Obama will be in huge trouble.
It's just killing you that the GOP won't be nominating some social issues flake cut from the Robertson/Falwell mold. Thank God the tea party steered the consrvative movement squarely toward fiscal issues and away from those fringe issues that most mainstream people don't give a shit about.
9%+ unemployment and the price of gas....the 2 most important numbers that will decide this election.
It's just killing you that the GOP won't be nominating some social issues flake cut from the Robertson/Falwell mold. Thank God the tea party steered the consrvative movement squarely toward fiscal issues and away from those fringe issues that most mainstream people don't give a shit about.
9%+ unemployment and the price of gas....the 2 most important numbers that will decide this election.
I get the unemployment, although Congress shares a lot of blame in that as well, but I will be interested to see how the President is solely going to be blamed for gas prices.
The Tea Party steered the GOP out of at least two Senate seats last election. Don't count on them to steer the GOP nominee toward the middle, which is where presidential elections are decided.
Regarding unemployment, see my last post. It generally seems not to matter, so long as the number doesn't spike drastically in 2012. Regarding gas prices, that's like setting up the Dems for a pet issue- blame the oil companies. It won't hurt him too badly when he points the finger at oil company profits over the last three years.
I get the unemployment, although Congress shares a lot of blame in that as well, but I will be interested to see how the President is solely going to be blamed for gas prices.
Bush 2008?
They also voted for him because of the shambles the other party had made of the country to that point. It wasn't just "hope and change," it was a drastic national sentiment to clean house. You seem to be arguing as if Bush and Co. were doing a passable job.
Your right, it cost Bush dearly, John Kerry was a great President.
That's an interesting point.
Has anyone on here ever voted or not voted for someone based on who the VP nominee was?