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WakeandBake said:
It is completely unnatural for humans to chemically alter crude oil into refined gasoline. Alchemy is some kind of perverse magic that only the devil could bestow upon man.

In the natural world only birds and insects are able to fly.

It is a perversion of the natural order for man to use knives and chemicals to save lives. Men with infections and severe injuries were, by the natural order, supposed to die of their wounds as God intended.
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Absolutely...and atomic warheads are just as natural a part of evolution as are CO2 emissions and George Carlin's vision of plastic.
 
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So if a woman can use her fingers and tongue to bring another woman to orgasm, and those two women love each other and express that love by bringing each other to orgasm over and over all night until they collapse into a heap and their hearts are filled with love and satisfaction, how again is that not natural, Junebug? Their clitorises are natural, their tongues are natural, their love for each other comes as natural as anything they know. How on earth is that not natural? Im not following
 
Depends on how hot they are, Bake. Are they hot hot or just Bake hot?
 
PhDeac said:
Depends on how hot they are, Bake. Are they hot hot or just Bake hot?
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How about these two?

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WakeandBake said:
The way I understand all these ancient bible tales and writings which were written by man and attributed to God, the sexual part is the sin, the loving part is never mentioned as a sin is it?

So through the years a bunch of men told these stories and passed these stories down as an oral history, then some monks wrote them down, then it was transcribed and translated over and over and over and kings and heads of the church nudged it and added nuance and eventually modern man takes these tales and parables and uses them to condemn their own children.

Sounds awesome, where do I sign up?!?!?!?!?!?
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There is written evidence of the New Testament from only one generation removed from those who witnessed the teachings of Christ.
 
Bake, are the breasts natural?
 
WFFaithful said:
There is written evidence of the New Testament from only one generation removed from those who witnessed the teachings of Christ.
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And you believe that the bible you study today is word for word the teachings of Christ? That no head of the church or king or anyone else altered translations and/or left some shit out?
 
WakeandBake said:
And you believe that the bible you study today is word for word the teachings of Christ? That no head of the church or king or anyone else altered translations and/or left some shit out?
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If you pick up five different translations of the Bible, you will find slight differences in the wording for any given passage, but the main concepts are the same with all.
 
WFFaithful said:
If you pick up five different translations of the Bible, you will find slight differences in the wording for any given passage, but the main concepts are the same with all.
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From 5 different points in time and different regions and languages, or 5 contemporary English translations?
 
BigTreeDeac said:
Let us all deride car drivers. Driving a car is, after all, not something previously seen as common place in nature. It is a perversion of the natural order of movement whereby we utilize force generated by our own appendages to propel ourselves.
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Technological advances have nothing to do with sex. This is a really bad analogy.

I'm talking about perverting the natural order in the true sense of the word--i.e., impotent impersonation. You're talking about manipulating the natural order in a completely amoral way. Apples and oranges.
 
If hundreds of species of animals have gay members and don't know Jesus' belief that they are amoral are they no longer created in God's image as we are told they are?
 
Junebug said:
Technological advances have nothing to do with sex. This is a really bad analogy.

I'm talking about perverting the natural order in the true sense of the word--i.e., impotent impersonation. You're talking about manipulating the natural order in a completely amoral way. Apples and oranges.
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but homosexuality existed in ancient Samaria. It has existed since the beginning of man. That makes it part of the natural order.

I would argue that you and your religion are imposing something unnatural, not the other way around.
 
WakeandBake said:
From 5 different points in time and different regions and languages, or 5 contemporary English translations?
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"Parts of the New Testament have been preserved in more manuscripts than any other ancient work, having over 5,800 complete or fragmented Greek manuscripts, 10,000 Latin manuscripts and 9,300 manuscripts in various other ancient languages including Syriac, Slavic, Gothic, Ethiopic, Coptic and Armenian. The dates of these manuscripts range from c. 125 (the John Ryland's manuscript, P52; oldest copy of John fragments) to the introduction of printing in Germany in the 15th century. The vast majority of these manuscripts date after the 10th century. Although there are more manuscripts that preserve the New Testament than there are for any other ancient writing, the exact form of the text preserved in these later, numerous manuscripts may not be identical to the form of the text as it existed in antiquity. Textual scholar Bart Ehrman writes: "It is true, of course, that the New Testament is abundantly attested in the manuscripts produced through the ages, but most of these manuscripts are many centuries removed from the originals, and none of them perfectly accurate. They all contain mistakes - altogether many thousands of mistakes. It is not an easy task to reconstruct the original words of the New Testament...."[2] In reference to the textual evidence for the New Testament, Bruce M. Metzger wrote,

"In evaluating the significance of these statistics...one should consider, by way of contrast, the number of manuscripts which preserve the text of the ancient classics. Homer's Iliad...is preserved by 457 papyri, 2 uncial manuscripts, and 188 minuscule manuscripts. Among the tragedians the witnesses to Euripides are the most abundant; his extant works are preserved in 54 papyri and 276 parchment manuscripts, almost all of the later dating from the Byzantine period...the time between the composition of the books of the New Testament and the earliest extant copies is relatively brief. Instead of the lapse of a millennium or more, as is the case of not a few classical authors, several papyrus manuscripts of portions of the New Testament are extant which were copies within a century or so after the composition of the original documents."[3][4]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript
 
WakeandBake said:
but homosexuality existed in ancient Samaria. It has existed since the beginning of man. That makes it part of the natural order.

I would argue that you and your religion are imposing something unnatural, not the other way around.
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If something is part of the "natural order," does that make it good? How about murder or theft?
 
Although there are more manuscripts that preserve the New Testament than there are for any other ancient writing, the exact form of the text preserved in these later, numerous manuscripts may not be identical to the form of the text as it existed in antiquity. Textual scholar Bart Ehrman writes: "It is true, of course, that the New Testament is abundantly attested in the manuscripts produced through the ages, but most of these manuscripts are many centuries removed from the originals, and none of them perfectly accurate. They all contain mistakes - altogether many thousands of mistakes. It is not an easy task to reconstruct the original words of the New Testament....
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This is the point I was driving at.
 
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