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The devil never sleeps, this time it's Nice, France

Deacsfan27 said:
Well a lot of American people want Obama to make obvious statements like there is radical terrorism every single time we are attacked.

I think that's pretty obvious too. Like the Americans need to be told that radical terrorists are a problem.
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People want him to refer to it as what it is- Islamic Terrorism. Quit beating around the bush and pretending like it's not people who find justification for their murders in their religion. However, I realize he's the prez and is behaving prudently- he doesn't want to do anything that might inflame tensions. So I don't really blame him. But for many who are part of the pro-immigration left, it's clear to me they're in denial about the threat we face and are unwilling to accept their role in why we're facing it.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
maybe we say 'fuck off, israel' and cede the middle east. the terrorists won; i'd rather be able to live in peace than jam democracy down the throats of people who don't get it.
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PGMs tend to reduce the gag reflex.
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
People want him to refer to it as what it is- Islamic Terrorism. Quit beating around the bush and pretending like it's not people who find justification for their murders in their religion. However, I realize he's the prez and is behaving prudently- he doesn't want to do anything that might inflame tensions. So I don't really blame him. But for many who are part of the pro-immigration left, it's clear to me they're in denial about the threat we face and are unwilling to accept their role in why we're facing it.
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I don't know what you're talking about. This isn't terrorism. It's hard to decipher the attacker's motive. Until further notice, I think we should refer to this is another incident in the growing plague of truck-place violence. I don't know why anyone would consider this terrorism...
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
People want him to refer to it as what it is- Islamic Terrorism. Quit beating around the bush and pretending like it's not people who find justification for their murders in their religion. However, I realize he's the prez and is behaving prudently- he doesn't want to do anything that might inflame tensions. So I don't really blame him. But for many who are part of the pro-immigration left, it's clear to me they're in denial about the threat we face and are unwilling to accept their role in why we're facing it.
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I don't think people are generally in denial about the threat "we" face, I think people disagree on how to address the issue. If you want to shut down the American borders to shut down the small number of terrorist attacks that occur domestically due to immigrants, then that's your prerogative. I don't think disagreeing that this is a practical or helpful solution means the "pro-immigration left" is in "denial."
 
jhmd2000 said:
I don't know what you're talking about. This isn't terrorism. It's hard to decipher the attacker's motive. Until further notice, I think we should refer to this is another incident in the growing plague of truck-place violence. I don't know why anyone would consider this terrorism...
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Unsurprisingly, the quixotic quest continues.
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
People want him to refer to it as what it is- Islamic Terrorism. Quit beating around the bush and pretending like it's not people who find justification for their murders in their religion. However, I realize he's the prez and is behaving prudently- he doesn't want to do anything that might inflame tensions. So I don't really blame him. But for many who are part of the pro-immigration left, it's clear to me they're in denial about the threat we face and are unwilling to accept their role in why we're facing it.
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I really don't think that there are many people out there who don't think Radical Islamic Terrorism is a problem.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
I didn't think anybody needed to be told that Trump is an absolutely terrible candidate who is grossly out of touch with the way policy and the rest of society operates, yet here we are. So I think issuing obvious statements may be in everyone's best interest moving forward.
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I didn't think anyone needs to be told Hillary is an untrustworthy liar at this point, yet remarkably here we are, with 33% of voters finding her to be trustworthy.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
Well a lot of American people want Obama to make obvious statements like there is radical terrorism every single time we are attacked.

I think that's pretty obvious too. Like the Americans need to be told that radical terrorists are a problem.
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No but at least every time he does tell us not to blame all muslims and that it is a religion of peace. I guess he thinks we need to be reminded of that. weird.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
I really don't think that there are many people out there who don't think Radical Islamic Terrorism is a problem.
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Well that's not going to stop people from conflating "disagreement on policy response" with "OMG the left is in denial about Islamic terror"
 
Deacsfan27 said:
I really don't think that there are many people out there who don't think Radical Islamic Terrorism is a problem.
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Please, if I had a dime for everyone who says after one these attacks, "These people are not Muslims." The denialism is commonplace.
 
Deacs89 said:
No but at least every time he does tell us not to blame all muslims and that it is a religion of peace. I guess he thinks we need to be reminded of that. weird.
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Well with people like JHMD and BSF4L out there it's pretty clear that he does need to remind people.
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
Please, if I had a dime for everyone who says after one these attacks, "These people are not Muslims." The denialism is commonplace.
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I'm done engaging after this because you're just being obtuse, per usual these days, but the most common refrain is that "these people do not represent ALL Muslims."
 
You guys may want to step away from the windmills if you want to continue this circle jerk. It may be hazardous without a protective cup.
 
when a random muslims commit an acts of terror, all muslims are terrorists

when random police officers brutally murder suspects, just an unfortunate, isolated incident
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
I don't think people are generally in denial about the threat "we" face, I think people disagree on how to address the issue. If you want to shut down the HIGHWAYS and BUSINESSES to shut down the small number of WHITE COPS KILLING BLACK MEN that occur domestically, then that's your prerogative. I don't think disagreeing that this is a practical or helpful solution means the "pro-police and anti BLM group " is in "denial."
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FIFY
 
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