Standup Comedy

[ImTheCaptain]

Larry the Cable Guy says hello.

an extremely successful comic is your counter example?

 

[BillBrasky]

Yeah but King of Queens was an above average sitcom. It definitely holds up better than most shows from that era.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

spoiler alert: comedy aimed at the lives of blue collar white people doesn't resonate with upper middle class white 20-30 somethings

 

[DistrictDeacon]

an extremely successful comic is your counter example?

Oh I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about good vs bad comics.

Not comics that are successful because they play to the absolute lowest common denominator.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

Oh I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about good vs bad comics.

Not comics that are successful because they play to the absolute lowest common denominator.

Amy Schumer is the most successful female comedian in the world right now, and of her generation.

 

[TownieDeac]

Oh I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about good vs bad comics.

Not comics that are successful because they play to the absolute lowest common denominator.

right, i thought ITC's argument was that capitalism shows all the good comics get rewarded with success

 

[ImTheCaptain]

because dumb people don't deserve comedy? weird take

 

[TownieDeac]

there is still good comedy for dumb people

 

[cville deac]

I don't know if its considered "trying too hard", but Schumer has definitely become a one-note, "I'm going to say things that hopefully will shock you because I'm a woman" comic.

I see Silverman, who I also find occasionally amusing, a lot more that way than Schumer. Whereas I see Schumer and Glazer as being sex themed comics, and that's their schtick.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

right, i thought ITC's argument was that capitalism shows all the good comics get rewarded with success

almost every comic in this thread has had one or more comedy albums if not a TV special or more.

 

[Demonwolverine]

Maybe some comedians have different intended audiences. That's ok too.

 

[DistrictDeacon]

because dumb people don't deserve comedy? weird take

Do you think children's book authors are "good" authors?

 

[ImTheCaptain]

there is still good comedy for dumb people

again, just because you don't find the Larry the Cable Guy character funny, doesn't mean Dan Whitney is a bad comedian

 

[ImTheCaptain]

Do you think children's book authors are "good" authors?

there are levels of quality in all vocations

 

[TownieDeac]

comedy tends to be pretty capitalist; bad comics don't get multi-season tv shows, a movie and extended light in the cultural zeitgeist

my argument is very straightforward: this is a bad take

see also: kevin james

 

[DistrictDeacon]

again, just because you don't find the Larry the Cable Guy character funny, doesn't mean Dan Whitney is a bad comedian

And just because someone has given him cash to make multiple terrible movies, doesn't make him a good comedian.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

my argument is very straightforward: this is a bad take

see also: kevin james

what's your argument? rubes like reductive, redneck-y jokes. if you think it's super easy, go try it.

you guys are ridiculous. the evidence of what makes a good comic is everywhere. it takes dedication and meticulous crafting, regardless of the subject matter.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

And just because someone has given him cash to make multiple terrible movies, doesn't make him a good comedian.

is Adam Sandler on the good or bad end of the comic continuum in your estimation?

 

[TownieDeac]

what's your argument? rubes like reductive, redneck-y jokes. if you think it's super easy, go try it.

you guys are ridiculous. the evidence of what makes a good comic is everywhere. it takes dedication and meticulous crafting, regardless of the subject matter.

nah it's way simpler than that

i'm saying kevin james is an objectively unfunny person, you're saying he's funny or that humor is subjective

 

[ImTheCaptain]

i'm saying a 'good' comic is a bigger than their genre