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2022 races (and 2021 for weird commonwealths like Virginia)

This could be fun (in a bad way) if the House of Delegates race is close.

https://www.virginiamercury.com/202...-run-again-in-2022-a-judge-could-decide-soon/

Democrats and Republicans are once again battling for control of the Virginia House of Delegates. But Paul Goldman, a Democratic lawyer and onetime aide to former Gov. Doug Wilder, says Virginia’s political class is ignoring an inconvenient truth: Technically speaking, the 2021 House elections are invalid.

Because the November elections are being held on an old political map that hasn’t been updated to reflect a decade of population shifts, Goldman is arguing in a federal lawsuit against the state, the courts should step in and order a do-over in 2022.

Though the state had no control over late-arriving U.S. Census data that delayed its constitutionally required redistricting process, Goldman says that’s no reason to let state delegates who win in November serve full, two-year terms while wide population disparities exist between districts.

According to analysis by the Virginia Public Access Project, a Northern Virginia district based in fast-growing Loudoun County now has a population of over 130,000, while other districts in Southsidme and Southwest Virginia have less than 70,000 people.
 
col anus and sailor will show up tomorrow to talk shit if youngkin wins. They're preping their material as we speak.
 
Cold, rainy, and gross here in Northern Virginia today. Couple polling places I drove by were pretty empty. Interested to see how the rule on absentee ballots requiring a witness signature will work out. Anyone who submits a ballot without a witness signature will be contacted to correct it, but the max time is 3 days for that. Not sure how that happens if there are lots of them, but who knows.

It's incredible how CRT has dominated this election. It's like the "Call Me Maybe" of political buzz phrases. Absurdly catchy, it appeals to so many more people than I would have guessed including moderates.
 
Cold, rainy, and gross here in Northern Virginia today. Couple polling places I drove by were pretty empty. Interested to see how the rule on absentee ballots requiring a witness signature will work out. Anyone who submits a ballot without a witness signature will be contacted to correct it, but the max time is 3 days for that. Not sure how that happens if there are lots of them, but who knows.

It's incredible how CRT has dominated this election. It's like the "Call Me Maybe" of political buzz phrases. Absurdly catchy, it appeals to so many more people than I would have guessed including moderates.

Yeah, but at this point the irrational stigmatization of it a) isn't going away and b) looks like it has metastized into something that could, at least in part, fuel a red wave next year.
 
And when you think about it, hatred and fear fuel pretty much every red wave so it's pretty on brand.
 
Republicans are so fucking stupid and racist.

There's more to it though. Youngkin is pretty good at being everything to everyone. His CRT banter gets headlines and it feeds the rally people and psycho Trumpers. But there are folks that don't buy into all that nonsense but also are voting for him and they're not all racist morons. It's a lot like when, at the beginning of COVID you started seeing "open the schools" signs in yards, mostly by far-right folks. And sentiment was overwhelmingly negative to start towards them. But then a lot of bad shit happened with teachers unions and school openings, moving goalposts, etc. that made more and more of those signs start popping up, and even pretty liberal people were like ehhhh yeah this is getting ridiculous open the damn schools or at least have a consistent or clear plan and messaging.

CRT may not be a true wedge issues in the middle, but trusting how education is handled - particularly how transparent leadership is and whether they listen to outside reason - definitely is. Sure the McAuliffe sound bite about parents not having a say in education is out of context, but it's not enough out of context given the past year. And education is one of those issues that everyone will instantly prioritize because so many kids are in elite public schools. It goes right to the top, not taxes or Trump or inflation or whatever.

So here we are in a coin flip that the weather might decide even though Trump lost by 10 here. Crazy.
 
Good post. This is where Republican dog whistle messaging excels. People who follow politics know what "open the schools" and "parents should have a say in education" really means and rightfully resist it. But they seem benign to other people who actually do support basic public health measures in school and don't want organized angry conservatives to micromanage classrooms.

This is why Democrats need to play offense instead of just responding to whatever Republicans come up with. There still isn't a consistent pro-vaccine, pro-masks in schools message. I still haven't seen Democrat politicians come out anti-racism in schools.
 
Yeah, but at this point the irrational stigmatization of it a) isn't going away and b) looks like it has metastized into something that could, at least in part, fuel a red wave next year.

 
There's more to it though. Youngkin is pretty good at being everything to everyone. His CRT banter gets headlines and it feeds the rally people and psycho Trumpers. But there are folks that don't buy into all that nonsense but also are voting for him and they're not all racist morons. It's a lot like when, at the beginning of COVID you started seeing "open the schools" signs in yards, mostly by far-right folks. And sentiment was overwhelmingly negative to start towards them. But then a lot of bad shit happened with teachers unions and school openings, moving goalposts, etc. that made more and more of those signs start popping up, and even pretty liberal people were like ehhhh yeah this is getting ridiculous open the damn schools or at least have a consistent or clear plan and messaging.

CRT may not be a true wedge issues in the middle, but trusting how education is handled - particularly how transparent leadership is and whether they listen to outside reason - definitely is. Sure the McAuliffe sound bite about parents not having a say in education is out of context, but it's not enough out of context given the past year. And education is one of those issues that everyone will instantly prioritize because so many kids are in elite public schools. It goes right to the top, not taxes or Trump or inflation or whatever.

So here we are in a coin flip that the weather might decide even though Trump lost by 10 here. Crazy.

Not everyone is ready to go there yet. Some posters are still in their personal yummy phases.
 
Good post. This is where Republican dog whistle messaging excels. People who follow politics know what "open the schools" and "parents should have a say in education" really means and rightfully resist it. But they seem benign to other people who actually do support basic public health measures in school and don't want organized angry conservatives to micromanage classrooms.

This is why Democrats need to play offense instead of just responding to whatever Republicans come up with. There still isn't a consistent pro-vaccine, pro-masks in schools message. I still haven't seen Democrat politicians come out anti-racism in schools.

Which is pretty much why Democrats keep losing elections they should win. Republicans claim it's because they're too liberal, when in truth it's because they won't fight for their beliefs (if they have any) and they run uninspiring, inept campaigns as McAuliffe appears to have done. It's easy to frame Democratic candidates as too liberal/radical/socialist when they rarely hit back and have no clear campaign message. The GOP, both in VA and nationally, has been relentless in hammering the CRT issue, and the truth of their charges hasn't really mattered. And the Democratic response has been tepid and vague at best, so by now the GOP owns the issue and has successfully framed it the way they wanted. The polls are close and maybe McAuliffe will pull through, but if he loses I'm wondering if Democrats will take away the wrong campaign message as they so often do - it's not that they are too liberal, it's that they too often run weak and bland status-quo campaigns with no strong message that resonates or really hits home with even their base, much less any independents.
 
From what I've seen McAuliffe thought he was a shoo-in so didn't try, assuming it would be another weak Republican as it's been the past few elections. Youngkin had no profile when he started running but has steadily built up support.
 
From what I've seen McAuliffe thought he was a shoo-in so didn't try, assuming it would be another weak Republican as it's been the past few elections. Youngkin had no profile when he started running but has steadily built up support.

Not an unfair assumption on this part, TBF.
 
Which is pretty much why Democrats keep losing elections they should win. Republicans claim it's because they're too liberal, when in truth it's because they won't fight for their beliefs (if they have any) and they run uninspiring, inept campaigns as McAuliffe appears to have done. It's easy to frame Democratic candidates as too liberal/radical/socialist when they rarely hit back aThe GOP, both in VA and nationally, has been relentless in hammering the CRT issue, and the truth of their charges hasn't really mattered. nd have no clear campaign message. And the Democratic response has been tepid and vague at best, so by now the GOP owns the issue and has successfully framed it the way they wanted. The polls are close and maybe McAuliffe will pull through, but if he loses I'm wondering if Democrats will take away the wrong campaign message as they so often do - it's not that they are too liberal, it's that they too often run weak and bland status-quo campaigns with no strong message that resonates or really hits home with even their base, much less any independents.

This should be a lesson for those Democrats who tried to blame "Defund the police" for underperforming last year. Republicans will make something up regardless of what is actually there, and it's better to counterpunch before the election instead of blaming members of their base afterwards. I am afraid they won't learn that lesson.

By the way, Youngkin is showing clips of fights in schools and trying to blame McAuliffe. I guess this is supposedly the result of critical race theory?

 

Sounds like you agree with LK? GOP messaging far outpaces their actual accomplishments. Kind of like how UNC was preseason top 10 on name recognition. “Getting things done” lol
 
Sounds like you agree with LK? GOP messaging far outpaces their actual accomplishments. Kind of like how UNC was preseason top 10 on name recognition. “Getting things done” lol

I'm just showing you the poll results. From the looks of it, the voters are putting the proverbial lid on whatever mandate the Biden Administration might have had.
 
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