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FiveThirtyEight midterms projections update: Republicans favored to take the Senate

Wakeforest22890 said:
I understand the underlying sentiment and it will be a challenge she will have to address and provide an adequate response for. I don't think attacking her for being in an ivory tower delegitimizes any of her points from an intellectual, substantive vantage point though.
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It doesn't matter what she thinks if she can't be elected since she's left of that leftist Obama and voters don't like intellectual ivory tower types.
 
Liquid Karma said:
How many years of her adult life has Warren spent outside of academia or public service? That's where the ivory tower comments likely come from.
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She's been a special ed teacher, homemaker, and small-time lawyer. But she's also been writing for popular audiences while law professoring. I don't know how you'd count that
 
I think LK wants to know about her #smallbusiness experience.
 
PhDeac said:
I think LK wants to know about her #smallbusiness experience.
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But has she had to sit down and mull over awful health care options required by a community organizer when she had a perfectly good plan already?

#inquiringminds
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
But has she had to sit down and mull over awful health care options required by a community organizer when she had a perfectly good plan already?

#inquiringminds
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So is she a real American?
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
You know what's extreme? Joni Ernst thinks a non-binding resolution is a UN plot to forcibly relocate people to cities. James Inhofe thinks global warming is a hoax. Paul Ryan's thinking on monetary policy is derived from an asshole's diatribe in a weird romance novel.

Elizabeth Warren thinks the economy is overly financialized, that unions should be slightly stronger, bankruptcy should be less creditor-friendly, and that wealthy folks should have a slightly higher marginal income tax rate. Are you even being serious when you call her extreme or are you trolling?
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Lets see.

Her populist attacks on corporate income taxes are extreme (mostly based on incorrect assumptions based on looking an financial reporting for corporations) based on the belief that the US can tax the worldwide profits of every company domiciled here at the US rate.

Her beliefs that we can fund major entitlement expansions by taxing rich people and corporations.

Her beliefs that the US should pay for the college education of everybody

Now you can sit here and stamp your feet that everybody doesn't agree with your take that Warren is a moderate and be aghast at the electorate when she got destroyed in the general election.......or not. I really don't care.
 
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ChrisL68 said:
Lets see.

Her populist attacks on corporate income taxes are extreme (mostly based on incorrect assumptions based on looking an financial reporting for corporations) based on the belief that the US can tax the worldwide profits of every company domiciled here at the US rate.

Her beliefs that we can fund major entitlement expansions by taxing rich people and corporations.

Her beliefs that the US should pay for the college education of everybody

Now you can sit here and stamp your feet that everybody doesn't agree with your take that Warren is a moderate and be aghast at the electorate when she got destroyed in the general election.......or not. I really don't care.
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1. Are corporations not people? People are taxed that way.

2. Using CPI-E and not chained CPI for adjusting SS benefits seems pretty commonsensical to me, since that's that cost-of-living index seniors actually face.

3. That's just an outright mis-statment of the student loan proposal. At no point has Warren endorsed "paying the college education of everybody."

I don't think any of those are fairly categorized as extreme. And even if those three positions were extreme, are they sufficient to make someone an "extremist" as claim? Now, I don't think she's a moderate. She's pretty clearly populist. But so were all the greats.
 
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In April of 2014, 66% of Americans polled by Gallup felt corporations paid too little in taxes while 61% felt rich people paid too little in taxes. Maybe the controversial part there is expanding entitlement programs with the money but it's difficult to argue that raising taxes on corporations or rich people is an extremist view when it's a belief held by a majority of the country.
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
1. Are corporations not people? People are taxed that way.

2. Using CPI-E and not chained CPI for adjusting SS benefits seems pretty commonsensical to me, since that's that cost-of-living index seniors actually face.

3. That's just an outright mis-statment of the student loan proposal. At no point has Warren endorsed "paying the college education of everybody."

I don't think any of those are fairly categorized as extreme. And even if those three positions were extreme, are they sufficient to make someone an "extremist" as claim? Now, I don't think she's a moderate. She's pretty clearly populist. But so were all the greats.
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Regarding corporate taxes, it would utterly destroy the ability of foreign subsidiaries of US corporations to compete in local market places. That view alone shows a complete lack of understanding of worldwide corporate taxation and is a deal breaker IMO.

Number 2 is great and all until you realize that SS is already facing solvency issues under current COLA increase projections.

Regarding 3, I know she is just supporting low or no interest loans for students due to political feasibility.
 
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Someone should tell Elizabeth that all her time spent doing research on similarly situated issues is all moot because ChrisL68 on the Wake Forest message boards disagrees with her conclusions.
 
She supports student loan rates to be the same rates that corporations get from the government when they borrow money. 0.75%


Why in the hell should corporations get a lower interest rate than students trying to give themselves a better chance for success?
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Someone should tell Elizabeth that all her time spent doing research on similarly situated issues is all moot because ChrisL68 on the Wake Forest message boards disagrees with her conclusions.
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I wish I was Sheldon Aldelson rich because then I would set up an Elizabeth Warren v ChrisL68 debate live on television about how the global economy works.
 
deacvision7 said:
She supports student loan rates to be the same rates that corporations get from the government when they borrow money. 0.75%


Why in the hell should corporations get a lower interest rate than students trying to give themselves a better chance for success?
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Risk?
 
deacvision7 said:
She supports student loan rates to be the same rates that corporations get from the government when they borrow money. 0.75%


Why in the hell should corporations get a lower interest rate than students trying to give themselves a better chance for success?
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The argument against it is that the Fed's discount window is only available to banks that are able to post collateral for the loan. Students are not able to post collateral.

However I think when you consider that SS payments can/will be garnished for student loan repayments it's pretty much a wash.




But none of this matters because ChrisL68 on the ogboards dot com "KNOWS" she's only for low-interest student loans in lieu of nationalizing higher ed and probably making Brown's open curriculum standard across the country, or something.
 
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