Zimmerman

[PhDeac]

But Trayvon Martin was the instigator.

 

[Liquid Karma]

He's a sick fuck for tweeting anything involving Trayvon Martin.

Does twitter really allow posts/graphics calling for someone to be murdered to remain up on the site for as long as Zimmerman claims? That's fucked up if true.

 

[Wakeforest22890]

Yeah he was totally not the aggressor in the underlying incident

 

[Liquid Karma]

Yeah he was totally not the aggressor in the underlying incident

Jury agrees with you.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

Juries also agreed that OJ and Robert Durst were innocent, but go on about the infallibility of the American court system

 

[Ball State Deac]

Jury agrees with you.

Don't think that's true based on at least some juror comments. What they believed happened and whether it was believed beyond a reasonable doubt are two different things.

 

[JuiceCrewAllStar]

Zimmerman is the assest of hats.

 

[ONW]

#25 pounds from cute. Identify yourself.

 

[Wakeforest22890]

Yeah the jury system sucks too. I've been sitting through portions of a products liability month long trial and it's difficult to imagine the empaneled jury follows even half of what's going on.

 

[Frosty]

Go away, George Zimmerman.

 

[Milhouse]

Yeah the jury system sucks too. I've been sitting through portions of a products liability month long trial and it's difficult to imagine the empaneled jury follows even half of what's going on.

 

[Wakeforest22890]

I don't really care about it either. It's boring as hell. Should be a bench trial.

 

[deacz]

I don't really care about it either. It's boring as hell. Should be a bench trial.

Tell that to the plaintiffs' attorneys.

 

[Les Grossman]

Juries also agreed that OJ and Robert Durst were innocent, but go on about the infallibility of the American court system

Weird. I've never heard of a jury being able to find someone "innocent" in a criminal trial before.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

Weird. I've never heard of a jury being able to find someone "innocent" in a criminal trial before.

I've been told that innocent and not guilty are the same thing, is that not true?

 

[Les Grossman]

I've been told that innocent and not guilty are the same thing, is that not true?

Completely different. Actually, I'd argue the distinction is one of the very cornerstones our criminal justice system is founded upon.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

Completely different. Actually, I'd argue the distinction is one of the very cornerstones our criminal justice system is founded upon.

It's incredibly convenient that you would make this point to me now. I made that exact point (not guilty =/= innocent) when both Zimmerman and Wilson were acquitted, and the exact opposite was argued against me, that each were to be considered as innocent, because they were never proven guilty.

 

[deacvision7]

Weird. I've never heard of a jury being able to find someone "innocent" in a criminal trial before.

I've been told that innocent and not guilty are the same thing, is that not true?

Completely different. Actually, I'd argue the distinction is one of the very cornerstones our criminal justice system is founded upon.

It's incredibly convenient that you would make this point to me now. I made that exact point (not guilty =/= innocent) when both Zimmerman and Wilson were acquitted, and the exact opposite was argued against me, that each were to be considered as innocent, because they were never proven guilty.

You're both right.

The ones that aren't correct are avoiding this exchange. Cleverly, I might add.

 

[cville deac]

Zimmerman needs a good shooting.

 

[Les Grossman]

It's incredibly convenient that you would make this point to me now. I made that exact point (not guilty =/= innocent) when both Zimmerman and Wilson were acquitted, and the exact opposite was argued against me, that each were to be considered as innocent, because they were never proven guilty.

I'm sorry if I inconvenienced you.

Yes, you are correct that a defendant is to be considered innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by the State or Government. However, when a jury comes back "not guilty" that does not mean they feel the person was "innocent." Actually, they could feel there's a very good chance the person is, in fact, guilty but due to a reasonable doubt they may have they could, and should, find the person not guilty.