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Ranked in the top ten is a big stretch, but I've made this same argument many times this season. Give Coach K this team and there is no possible way it is 18-12. Nor Roy. Nor Prosser for that matter. I would bet any of those three coaches would have this team with anywhere from 4-7 more wins...

I would never actively root against Wake, but maybe long term it's better off if next year is a repeat of this year so a decision has to be made and this can't linger.

I think we have enough of a sample size now to see that Forbes is not the guy long-term. He is of course better than what we had, but he's pretty clearly not the coach to make Wake a consistent winner. I don't hold the COVID year against anyone, but every season since then has seen the same...

Yeah, no way he's getting fired this year, but it needs to be established with him, from Currie, you make the tournament next year or we have to move on. Period.

And he went to Tennessee.

I think 6-6 next year looks most likely. Although I think it’s more likely we are a couple games worse than that than it’s likely we are a couple of games better than that.

We seem to be absolutely snakebitten with injuries in the secondary, every year. With that said, I don't think our secondary has been that bad really. Run defense is still the issue, just like the past several seasons, and the thing that kills me to watch is that our linebackers, as a group, are...

Yeah, I think Clemson probably loses two games at least in the regular season. Not sure who it will be, but I just don't see that team going undefeated, especially not in the Atlantic division. (I do NOT, however, think NC State can beat them at their place...)

I have been calling this scenario for months. I stand by it. We start strong enough to force DJ out of the game. Klubnik comes in and destroys us. Clemson wins by something like 45-21 and we start another "new era" at Clemson. Sigh...

I don’t necessarily disagree in principal but I also feel like the slow mesh became more of a thing for us because our offensive line has been a much better pass blocking or zone blocking line than straight up firing off and run blocking for some time now. I actually think the slow mesh...

Well I mean… it was. Lol

OMG with the holding.

This. You have 51 seconds and a timeout.

I don’t normally pile on but I agree with this. Why call timeout on the punt to run up the middle twice and go to halftime?

Yep. In weird situations like this you can potentially make a ton betting the middle. Say you got wake -6 and it’s now 13.5, you can now lay money in vandy +13.5 and if wake wins by more than 6 but less than 13.5 you win both bets. Having that much spread for a middle window is nuts.

Oh I tend to agree more with you. I am not overly confident of a cover of 13.5, for all the reasons you point out.

I would be sorely tempted just because that is such a big middle. With that said, I watched a YouTube bit last night from these guys I watch for their weekly betting locks and one of the guys on there had gotten Wake -7 earlier and he actually said he was going to lay more on Wake -13, which...

I want to know if anyone here was lucky enough to get Wake -6 and was paying attention when there were a couple of places yesterday with Vanderbilt +14. Wondering if anyone bet both and got that huge window for the middle. That's crazy.

I saw a YouTube video last night of some randos on a podcast picking Wake's games as they went through our schedule and they both got to week 2 at Vandy and were like, "That's definitely a loss for WFU, maybe even if they had Hartman, the way Vandy looked last week." I chuckled. (not saying Wake...

I saw the O/U at 67.5 and hesitated too. Seems too high for my taste in this particular game. This game feels more like a "let's get the new QB comfortable and also not show much of anything crazy on film" kind of game. That likely means way under 67.5 I feel like, but who really knows.