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Steve Lepore
What an awful story.
Gotta keep an eye on crt ! It's getting outta control ! !Black, college-educated, football player. No wonder Fox News is all over it.
I'm legitimately confused here. A mass shooting on a college campus is not a huge story? Fox is only making it a huge story because the shooter is black? Fox news hates football players? I don't follow any of that logic.To sports fans this is a huge deal. To the general public this is just run of the mill gun violence motivated by personal beef.
Unless you’re Fox News pushing a narrative about people they hate (Black people, college students, football players), this just doesn’t matter much unless some salacious details come out.
Surely people can understand why political motivated violence or random violence gets more media attention. Those events make it seem like anyone can be a victim.
It is a pretty significant story. I was surprised it wasn't more prominent on CNN's home page.Black, college-educated, football player. No wonder Fox News is all over it.
I'm legitimately confused here. A mass shooting on a college campus is not a huge story? Fox is only making it a huge story because the shooter is black? Fox news hates football players? I don't follow any of that logic.
If anything, I would think the fact that a college athlete shot a bunch of former teammates would make this a bigger story? I don't remember another event like this, ever??
Tbf it's literally one of the top stories on CNN's site right now and is getting live updates. It's also on the top banner of the NYT site.It is a pretty significant story. I was surprised it wasn't more prominent on CNN's home page.
Or the time a Baylor basketball player murdered a teammate and the headcoach lied to investigators and falsely suggested the deceased player was a drug dealer.Really ? A UVA Men's Lacrosse player murdred his girlfriend, a UVA Women's Lacrosse player in 2010. Not exactly the same scale, but still.
I explained it clearly. This was some internal conflict between members of a team, not political violence or an indiscriminate mass shooting in which the victims were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Most gun violence is between people who know each other. It doesn't really move the needle among the dozens of gun murders in this country every day. There was a murder. Nobody else is in danger. The killer is in custody. This isn't going to get as much coverage as other gun violence, but more than run of the mill local stuff.I'm legitimately confused here. A mass shooting on a college campus is not a huge story? Fox is only making it a huge story because the shooter is black? Fox news hates football players? I don't follow any of that logic.
If anything, I would think the fact that a college athlete shot a bunch of former teammates would make this a bigger story? I don't remember another event like this, ever??
I also saw a report that he had made a statement to someone about having a gun that was worrying enough that it was reported to and investigated by UVA's threat management system.Wow, previously the shooter was involved in a hazing investigation that was eventually dropped due to lack of cooperation (per UVA police chief). This seems like it could become an even bigger, more awful story.
Agreed.I explained it clearly. This was some internal conflict between members of a team, not political violence or an indiscriminate mass shooting in which the victims were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Most gun violence is between people who know each other. It doesn't really move the needle among the dozens of gun murders in this country every day. There was a murder. Nobody else is in danger. The killer is in custody. This isn't going to get as much coverage as other gun violence, but more than run of the mill local stuff.
I don't remember the prior UVA athlete murder or the Baylor hoops murder getting much mainstream attention.
Agreed.
To the point of the UVA lacrosse murder, I seem to remember that one getting a lot of run in the press, but it was part of a larger story about UVA's Greek culture running amok and instances of sexual and domestic violence being handled very poorly by the university.
That's the one!Uh, yeah like the falsified Rolling Stone story.
To what state and time period are you referring? That might help advance this aspect of the discussion.All I know is you could go to a store and come out with a gun with little problem. As I said, very valid to say the number of guns is part of it, but don't be so close-minded to think that is all of it. People have had access to guns for a long time, it would've been arguably much easier to shoot up schools years ago, why is it happening so much more now. What is driving people to do it, it's more than just the number of guns?
And I just disagree with your conclusion. Internal conflict or not, this is not one guy shooting another guy because they got in a fight - this is 5 people getting shot - that easily meets the definition of a mass shooting. It involves college athletes - people who are 'known' - at least by people that follow that team. I would expect it to be a top of the news type story, for sure.I explained it clearly. This was some internal conflict between members of a team, not political violence or an indiscriminate mass shooting in which the victims were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Most gun violence is between people who know each other. It doesn't really move the needle among the dozens of gun murders in this country every day. There was a murder. Nobody else is in danger. The killer is in custody. This isn't going to get as much coverage as other gun violence, but more than run of the mill local stuff.
I don't remember the prior UVA athlete murder or the Baylor hoops murder getting much mainstream attention.
Agreed.
To the point of the UVA lacrosse murder, I seem to remember that one getting a lot of run in the press, but it was part of a larger story about UVA's Greek culture running amok and instances of sexual and domestic violence being handled very poorly by the university.