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RJ: Thanks for these threads. Your insight is always helpful. Made a few sheckels on the Derby with your call on Chrome. For what it is worth, I think Chrome will win, but is too rich to bet. Take 4, 5 and someone in an exacta box - maybe A Rod, even though I hate him. Just complete speculation...

Thanks RJ and Diego. Good luck Saturday.

RJ: Of the longer shots (say 20:1 or higher) which couple of horses do you think offer the most value at the current odds? Thanks. Always appreciate your insight on the Derby.

I am in, font be damned! Need some good Karma!

Way to go!

That is my goal Strick. Just having a little fun.

Who is this guy? I have never heard of him? I heard Wellman had a beer with him in 1998? Look at this guy's record - he has been average everywhere he has been. "He was 29-29 in five seasons at Fordham, 29-20 in four seasons at Richmond and 32-31 in five seasons with Bowling Green." How is he...

Let's just agree Grobe did a great job, but change could be good. Let's just hope we get a great successor. I'd like to see a wide open offense. Fun and may help recruiting.

No comprende? So my agreement with Dillon that the constant spewing of venom might come back to haunt us is the kiss of death for Dillon? So this is good news for Wake football? So Racer made a positive post?!

Spot on Dillon.

Originally Posted by Ball State Deac View Post Exactly. My in-laws don't drink. Sober T-day, round 5 for me. Glad we can finally find some common ground DV7!

Funny how the Debbie Downers deny any responsibility for, or effects of, their actions but then proclaim to cause those negative effects for the good of the program.

Snake bitten by our own venom?

Thanks Cumberland, good work.

Maybe he got bashed publicly on the board (he's slow etc.) and reconsidered? That is the only way I can make sense of the keep your head up comment.

Good baseline. Now we know what Buzz has to do to over-achieve. I'll take the over 9-19.

"I'm sorry that you think those critiques are lazy. I agree with you about the AFA and Teague ones. Teague, especially, is ridiculous. I'm guessing that it's the same culture club who doesn't realize that he's blossomed into one of the leagues top point guards making most of those claims. Could...

I am supposed to evaluate talent from a video clip? You realize those clips are edited right? Wait 'til he steps on campus.

Most of you guys loved Ish and it sounds like Shelton shoots a lot better. Roughly 70 percent at the line is nothing to worry about, he's just starting his senior year of high school.

Racer, you know I do not "smear kids". I am a big fan of our 8 man class, despite a lot of the folks who poo poo them. I have said we weren't going to win in the ACC back in Buzz's early years with two freshmen point guards who weren't ACC caliber (same as you are saying -"All great kids, but...