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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    I think realistically, the best outcome for us is if the top 24 or so football schools break away (but not 48). That will leave most of our rivals in our boat. We are all playing for being part of a roughly 70 school boat. God help us if that boat ends up being 64. But, at the moment, that's...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    I would take them back too, though I would grit my teeth over it. But you just got to the reason why I hate them worse. If FSU doesn't destroy the ACC in thrashing its way out, and pays up, I won't care that they're gone and would not "invite them back in a heartbeat." If Maryland had never...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    I hate Maryland more than FSU. So far. And I don't like any of those schools on principle.
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    I'm a Wake Forest graduate with a fairly good grasp of vocabulary and the law. I don't know what "the bench in NC is generally about as prejudicial to anything Womble says as this crowd is to anything I post" means either. I don't know if it means judges are deferential to Womble or prejudiced...
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    Army working to join AAC in '24 (potential Wake FB schedule impact?)

    I like playing Army and especially there. But next year is a little soon, maybe two-threw years from now?
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    New ACC Football Scheduling Model

    I am pleasantly surprised to look at our schedule and be fairly happy with how it shook out for us. I'd like another game or two against VT. Maybe give up one of the UVA and GT games for that. I'm also used to BC being practically a rival. But I'll take it. I hope we keep up with the UNC games...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    The exit fee is 3x annual revenue. So say $120 million. The GOR buyout is either: a) pay the ACC to release your media rights. Say that is $500 million. (Or whatever.) b) leave your media rights with the ACC and don't buy them out. (This will never happen, why would the SEC welcome you but not...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    A bit more, although this seems to be coming from Boise State and not Oliver Luck/OSU/WSU. https://frontofficesports.com/first-proposal-for-relegation-in-college-football/
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    https://t.co/iATYMUGGco This might be some crazy genius stuff here. Solves the problem of the PAC 12 and MWC surviving, and that not all MWC football programs are even decent. Plus, not mentioned, the Big Sky seems to have like a third of the top 25 FCS programs in the country. Have three...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    U Ummm ... Huge schools, lots of eyeballs, long rivalries, sustained football success beyond one or two teams. (The ACC should have snapped their fingers and fixed that gap long ago...)
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    Wait - you think FSU and whoever would have extended the GOR for 10 more years for a few million dollars a year from Wake and [whatever number of low-rent ACC schools have no hope but to subsidize the others]? Hahahahahahaha! What world are you living in? FSU voted against that same deal of...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    Yes. If we get left behind in the Football End Game, we will likely lose our Top 30 academic ranking... but not if we're in a Tier 2 sports conference of Tier 1 academic institutions.
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    SMU is actually tied with State at 72nd in USNWR rankings. So very good, but not average-improving or anything. (Their endowment is only about $2B, roughly the same as ours.) Clemson is actually the lowest in the ACC (77) other than Louisville (at 182!) All of the Big 12 schools with Texas...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    Wake Forest: #2 in jello shots, #1 in wine* tours and hearts! (*unranked among cheese crowd)
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    Because ADs aren't close to the sole decision makers.
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    I agree that this is cobbling on a Plan B, for escapees or for Premier League. Might as well pre-stage our future partners. Even if just in like an allied Pacific subsidiary.
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    I would think UNC is torn between being the heart of the Acc with enough money to be a good as they can plausibly be; knowing if they leave they rip the heart out of the conference; and delusions of Big 10 money and mediocracy, or SEC money and irrelevance. I don't think UNC wants to kill the...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    FSU - the good news is that we are implementing a disparagement clause, any school so doing loses $10 million a year. So your exit fee is lower! The bad news is if you perform really well, your revenue will be through the roof - not so rough - and your exit costs - if you perform - will be $1B...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    I have read that the legal venue for disputes about the ACC or GOR in conference documents is Delaware federal court. I have read that the SEC does not have a pro rata clause like the ACC or Big 12. (Probably because ESPN doesn't want to pay $80 million a year for any additional schools, since...
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    Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

    I only care about UNC and Clemson out of that group, so I would say the existing ACC, split into two divisions (the old ACC and old Big East). Add Tulane in place of FSU maybe. Add WVU to Big East division. Maybe consider adding William & Mary and Richmond if they upgrade their programs? Even...
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